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re: I’m convinced Bernie Sanders does not grasp the idea of profit margins

Posted on 5/25/19 at 7:02 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 5/25/19 at 7:02 am to
the real question with all of these populist policies is how much the politician believes it vs. how much they know it's a good selling point for dumb/hopeful people who may vote for them

with Bernie, given his 40 years, i think it's a legit position and he's just fully ignorant. i think that genuine nature is why he can sell it so well (and why, say, Corey Booker, comes off as the most fake politician in the history of the US)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/25/19 at 7:05 am to
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But secondly, why would a store clerk doing the same work, at the same skill level, and the same production as his predecessors be paid more (dollar adjusted) than they were? Economically, the expectation is a head scratcher.

given the nature of our developing economy, it makes no sense. the fact that we have illegal labor occupying a lot of this lower tier is a clear indicator of its actual market value (and many leftists will admit this if you use the right words)

trying to explain "anybody can do your job" to people who do those jobs is a tough sell, though
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/25/19 at 7:05 am to
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the real question with all of these populist policies is how much the politician believes it vs

All indications with Sanders life history are that he is sincerely this stupid.

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. i think that genuine nature is why he can sell it so well (and why, say, Corey Booker, comes off as the most fake politician in the history of the US
yep.

Bernie to me isn't the problem. The problem is that LOTS of people we ridiculously refer to as "educated" in America aren't actually educated enough to just laugh at him.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 5/25/19 at 7:08 am to
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worker pay generally exceeds inflation


= recession, every time
Posted by TurkeyBaconLeg
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 5/25/19 at 7:12 am to
Many of the morons don’t understand or won’t admit that in most of these companies the MINIMUM WAGE is a STARTING WAGE for new employees.

As an employee gets more training and experience, their hourly wage increases.

Not every employee you see working at a McDonalds is making minimum wage. Most of them are making more because they have been at their job for longer than 90 days and they have completed certain trainings and developed skills.

What idiots don’t understand is that if you force a company to pay a brand new employee with no skills a higher starting wages, then you will also have to increase the hourly wage of your more skilled and experienced employees who have gotten “raises”. Or else you negate the reward that these seasoned employees got for being the more senior and skilled persons.

HAVE ANY OF THESE IDIOTS EVER OWNED A BUISNESS OR EVEN MANAGED ONE.

Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 5/25/19 at 7:21 am to
I worked at McDonalds for 2 years in HS. Started at minimum wage (it was 3.25/hour I think) and by the time I quit I was earning 7/hour as a “shift lead”. I would run a register (supplemental for busy hour) and cook all at the same time. I was 15-17 years old during this time. If I’d have wanted to they’d have made me a shift manager (10-12/hour back then) and eventually a store manager (probably 50-60k back then). It was a great place to learn about responsibility, work flows, business processes, and it was actually fun since most who worked there were my age.
Posted by ShawSawTheMoor
China Grove, Brazoria Co. TX FM 521
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 5/25/19 at 7:59 am to
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aren't actually educated enough to just laugh at him

This is a frightening trend in America. Even 20 years ago buffoons like Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Corey Booker and Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez would have been laughed to scorn. Now they're star celebrities on talk shows and feted by the news media royally.
This post was edited on 5/25/19 at 8:06 am
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 5/25/19 at 8:11 am to
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He knows USA pays billions for Walmart employee food stamps


So you’re in favor of reducing food stamps?
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 5/25/19 at 8:18 am to
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You and he continue to evade providing any instance that shows he doesn’t.


He throws out the $1.4 billions in profit line without any context. McDonalds Corporate profit margin sits at about 26% for the last quarter. Buts that the corporate margin.

McDonalds is a franchise and it is the individual franchises who employ the vast majority of the no skill labor. So his comments on McDonald’s “1.4 billion profit” are not only out of context but also completely fricking irrelevant.

He is probably the most economically illiterate presidential candidate in US history.
This post was edited on 5/25/19 at 8:19 am
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/25/19 at 8:22 am to
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He is probably the most economically illiterate presidential candidate in US history.



AOC says "hold my beer" in 2024.
Posted by Creator
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 5/25/19 at 9:21 am to
Minimum wage shouldn’t exist at all. Businesses should be allowed to set wages where they want. If they want to make the wage $1.10 an hour, they should have the right to do so.
Posted by Creator
Member since May 2019
28 posts
Posted on 5/25/19 at 9:24 am to
AOC will be 34 and still too young to run in 2024. In fact she’d turn 34 just barely before Election Day.

And frankly I’m rather skeptical of how much support she’s get if she ran in 2028. Somewhere at the back of their heads, even her supporters probably realize she’s much better at creating a buzz on Twitter than she’d actually be as president.
This post was edited on 5/25/19 at 9:27 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/25/19 at 10:09 am to
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I know what was posted. And you nor he has shown snything close to showing he doesn’t.


Crazy Bernie’s words were posted where all he says is “Walmart took in x billion last year”. That statement alone shows he is ignoring profit margin and only focusing on profits. So again, he’s a dumbass, and so are you.

Pop quiz, define profit margin. I’ll even let you google and then you can come back and explain why Bernie’s claim is simply disingenuous fodder meant to rile up his completey idiotic base who do not understand basic economics or accounting, like yourself.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49420 posts
Posted on 5/25/19 at 10:16 am to
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And you nor he has shown snything close to showing he doesn’t.


Does Sanders know how franchise systems work? Because based on his own words, he does not.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 5/25/19 at 10:55 am to

Here’s a gem from Bernie indicating he has no idea of the difference between an unsecured and a secured loan.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 5/25/19 at 12:36 pm to
Bernie only supports illegally profiting by stealing from a university you are President of then bankrupting said college.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 5/25/19 at 1:59 pm to

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with Bernie, given his 40 years, i think it's a legit position and he's just fully ignorant. i think that genuine nature is why he can sell it so well
He's a millionaire "socialist", with multiple homes, and gives scant little to charity. There is nothing genuine about him. He's the classic : "Socialism for thee, capitalism for me!"
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 5/25/19 at 2:03 pm to
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Here’s a gem from Bernie indicating he has no idea of the difference between an unsecured and a secured loan.
nor default rates...
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