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re: I’m being asked to prove that ANTIFA is real

Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:01 am to
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18110 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:01 am to
Portland has an antifa chapter with membership and everything. A few cities have their own chapters
Posted by SludgeFactory
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Jun 2025
2204 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:13 am to
quote:

by a super lib acquaintance.


You need to avoid this person at all costs.

Thank them for letting you know who they are, and run as fast as you can from them an their toxicity before it infects your daily life.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30870 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:35 am to
Direct him to Rose City Antifa's web site.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25801 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:36 am to
Forward his name and info to the FBI
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
6875 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:45 am to
quote:

by a super lib acquaintance.



My response would be “don’t try to play me for a fool, my side is finished talking, anyway.”
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 6:46 am
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
26621 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:46 am to
They have their own flag and waive it. Anyone standing near the flag.

They are fully funded and have members flown and bussed in for events.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30543 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:48 am to
quote:

super lib acquaintance.



Find new acquaintances...
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
71935 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 7:09 am to
I posted this in a similar thread on the OT yesterday, hope this helps…

Antifa traces it roots to the German communist party in the early 1930s Weimar Republic. At that time street violence between various left and right political parties was common. The two largest parties were the Communist on the left and Nazis on the right. To fight their street battles the Nazis had the SA. Likewise, to fight their street battles the Communists had Antifa.




From its founding 90 years ago, Antifa has been a paramilitary organization of Communists.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
36991 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 7:25 am to
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Proving something isn't real is generally harder. To prove something is real, you often just need one clear, verifiable piece of evidence—say, a fossil for a dinosaur or a photo for a UFO sighting. To prove something isn't real, you must rule out every possible instance of its existence, which can be nearly impossible due to the vastness of the universe or the limits of current technology. For example, proving unicorns don't exist requires checking every corner of the Earth (and beyond) where they could hypothetically be, while proving they do exist only takes one undeniable unicorn sighting. Absence of evidence isn't the same as evidence of absence, which makes disproving trickier.


The onus is on you. You can do it! (This is from Grok BTW)
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51801 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 7:33 am to
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How about your acquaintance prove they are not. I know it's hard to prove something is not there than to prove it is
Nope. It’s impossible to prove the absence of something like that. Go ahead and try. Prove that there is no such thing as a Trump brigade dedicated to making Trump a dictator. It’s a ridiculous assertion that is obviously false, but try to prove it isn’t so. It’s impossible.

The person making the assertion bears the burden of proof. The OP asserts there is an organization called antifa (There is), and his acquaintance says there isn’t. The OP has to prove it if he wants to carry the point. Now, it would be reasonable to blow it off if it’s super obvious. Like, I’m not going to prove that the United States exists to someone who denies it.

Reading between the lines, the OP’s foil is not saying there is no such thing as antifa; he is saying “it’s an idea, not an organization”. That’s a foolish point, because there is loads of evidence that it is organized and funded. If his liberal acquaintance wants to keep arguing in the face of that let him. You’ll never convince him.

In a way, he is right. Turning Point USA is an incorporated non-profit organization. You can see documented proof of its existence as an organization. Maybe there is no such organizing documents for antifa. So what? The same can be said for Proud Boys and yet they were declared terrorists, infiltrated by the government, and thankfully ended.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 7:35 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125036 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 7:35 am to
Anyone who would argue that Antifa isn’t real isn’t worth having an argument with.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162064 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 7:56 am to
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162064 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 7:59 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465111 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 8:00 am to
quote:

I’m being asked to prove that ANTIFA is real

Faulty/dishonest premise.

The important point/question centers around if ANTIFA is a single organization or a loose connection of multiple local organizations based around similar ideas.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294622 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 8:00 am to
Not your burden.

If someone is that stupid, you'll never convince them
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162064 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 8:02 am to
Posted by Alabama Slim
Team Massie
Member since Jul 2007
10660 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 8:12 am to
quote:

I’m being asked to prove that ANTIFA is real


They sell merch
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
7038 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 8:12 am to
just show them this website Rose City Antifa

If it is only an idea why is there a website for this group.

quote:

Rose City Antifa (RCA) was founded in Portland, Oregon in October of 2007. RCA was formed after a coalition of local people and organizations formed the 'Ad-Hoc Coalition Against Racism and Fascism' in order to shut down a neo-Nazi skinhead festival called Hammerfest. RCA continues the work of that Ad-Hoc Coalition and countless others who have worked to oppose racial prejudice, bigotry and fascism in our communities in Portland, Oregon, and the Pacific Northwest more broadly.

Rose City Antifa opposes fascist organizing through direct action, education, and through solidarity with leftist spaces, activists, and organizations.



Seattle seems happy by this:

quote:

The Center Square) – President Donald Trump’s Wednesday night announcement on social media that he is designating Antifa a “major terrorist organization” is welcome news to Seattle Police Officers Guild President Mike Solan.

Solan and fellow Seattle police officers have endured years of violent protests – often involving Antifa – that have left many SPD officers battered and bruised.

Antifa is a decentralized organization that claims to oppose fascism. Adherents have been active in Washington state, particularly in urban areas like Seattle, which is known as a hub for left-wing activism.

“These people are vile, and they should be treated as such,” Solan told The Center Square on Thursday. “They should be held accountable. So, I'm so glad that they're finally going after the resources of the people who are propping up these Antifa thugs with money, assets, influence, and legal cover. Let's go after it all.”


This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 8:15 am
Posted by SoWhat
Member since May 2013
618 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 8:13 am to
Disassociate with lunatics
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125036 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 8:13 am to
quote:

The important point/question centers around if ANTIFA is a single organization or a loose connection of multiple local organizations based around similar ideas.


That’s not an important question at all.
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