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re: I’m anti-minimum wage increase...

Posted on 1/24/21 at 1:47 pm to
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 1:47 pm to
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Should the other employees within the company fairly expect a 19% increase in salary as well just to keep it balanced?
How about everyone gets a 0.5% raise?
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26287 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 1:51 pm to
Hardly no one, other than people just entering the workforce of those getting out of jail or addiction, earns minimum wage. This include part time workers, teens etc. less than 8 % of teenage workers earn minimum wage.

This is so fricking dumb
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26287 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 1:53 pm to
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But CEOs can make profits by paying minimum wage and having low level employees on government benefit programs like food stamps and Medicaid. Should they be rewarded for doing that?


We should let the shareholders decide that...
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 1:54 pm to
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But CEOs can make profits by paying minimum wage and having low level employees on government benefit programs like food stamps and Medicaid. Should they be rewarded for doing that?


No, they're rewarded for making the owners of the company money, period.

And very few people in the US make the minimum wage right now. The market has moved wages upward.






Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18722 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 1:54 pm to
The market sets prices. Not government. If they do, there are consequences.

Why would you keep your company in the US if you have to sustain a 50-100% increase in labor cost, when you can go to Mexico or China and see a 300% decrease in labor costs?

Alll those jobs are gone.

Now add the corporate tax increases. This country will hemorrhage wealth and jobs.
This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 1:56 pm
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14734 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:00 pm to
Companies are getting bigger and responsible for more employees.

Why does it matter supply and demand.

Also are u upset that the nfl league minimum stays about the same but superstars are getting higher and higher salaries....

Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
13141 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:01 pm to
Most CEO "raises" come in the form of stock options that increase in value. Tying CEO compensation to stock prices is something meant to fix something called the principal-agent dilemma
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22297 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:02 pm to
Just what the green haired, pinko commie figs want is UBI.
Posted by theronswanson
House built with my hands
Member since Feb 2012
3253 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

And very few people in the US make the minimum wage right now. The market has moved wages upward.


Then why would raising the minimum wage destroy jobs?
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:13 pm to
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Then why would raising the minimum wage destroy jobs?


Uh, because there are people making between the current minimum wage and the proposed new minimum wage?

Moron.
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
9101 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:14 pm to
I’m tired of people having a complete lack of understanding of how economies work.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:17 pm to
Are you a Marxist?

quote:

makes it highly unreasonable for the bottom to see some kind of increase.


A minimum wage increase will only make them poorer.

Stop illegal immigration, and end offshoring. Those two policies would actually make working Americans richer.
This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 2:22 pm
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
6076 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:33 pm to
Do you think CEOs just approve their own salary at whatever they want? Why are you attacking the CEOs for accepting their compensation and not the people setting their compensation?
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5961 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:33 pm to
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But realize the hike of CEO pay of 105% the last 10 years is a major problem and makes it highly unreasonable for the bottom to see some kind of increase.

Literally the rich keep getting richer while people on the bottom are the “problem” when it comes to inflation. Something has to give. Last year alone CEO’s saw a increase of 19% on average. That’s insane.




Lebron can make 40 million...that is OK.

Pat Mahomes can make 45 million...that is OK.

But when a CEO, who has a ton of responsibility and has thousands under his/her charge, makes 40 mil in salary...that is not OK.

I don't get how some of you think. Puzzling.

As some have pointed out, a lot of these CEOs are paid partially in stock options. As long as the market is on fire and stocks rise in value, some of these CEOs will make a lot of $$$.
This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 2:34 pm
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

But realize the hike of CEO pay of 105% the last 10 years is a major problem


Just because you’re jealous doesn’t make theft right.

You want to know what the biggest problem is? National corporations destroying local businesses.

Home Depot
Walmart
Amazon
CVS

All killing local businesses and replacing small family owned businesses that care about their employees and communities with soulless companies that employ people at the bare minimum and don’t give a shot about their employees or community.


Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:39 pm to
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You want to know what the biggest problem is? National corporations destroying local businesses.


Yep. It's NOT competitive capitalism to give Home Cheapo a 10-year tax abatement for building a store while you don't give the local lumber yard or hardware store the same benefit. That's cronyism.

It's disgusting.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20850 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:41 pm to
Profits have been flat inflation adjusted since 2008
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
157409 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:42 pm to
How much does Lebron make?

How about the guy selling peanuts while Lebron plays?

This is a weird thread.

Take 19% of that CEOs pay. Divide it by 20k employees and give them all an equal share in the form of an hourly wage increase? How much is that?

This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 2:46 pm
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

The increase in salary for a CEO in the last YEAR was 19%.


That’s highly unbalanced.



So what?

The CEO is not interchangeable. Workers down around minimum wage are.

You either never had an econ course or you slept through it.
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7936 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:44 pm to
here's a little math

Exxon CEO total comp - $23.5 MM
Exxon Employees - 75,000 total employees
Avg Salary - $100,000

If you took all of Darren Woods' salary and divided it equally amongst his employees they would each get....

$313 / year

And you'd lose all incentive for a CEO to keep their company competitive
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