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re: Illegals and “natural rights”
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:50 pm to Nutriaitch
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:50 pm to Nutriaitch
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agreed, that's why I'm not in favor of restricting legal sales.
Good. I want to sell a gun, Juan has my $500. I shouldnt have to call Daddy and get his approval or ask what his status is.
Blame the federal govt for flooding the country. Dont blame individuals for trying to defend themselves with a god given right.
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:50 pm to Nutriaitch
So you don't support laws restricting non-citizens (even illegal immigrants) from possessing firearms, right?
You would just follow the law (if that law exists)?
You would just follow the law (if that law exists)?
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
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So you support laws on universal background checks, right?
frickin commies.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I trust God more than the government.
Dumb move for both.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:56 pm to FATBOY TIGER
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Dumb move for both.
God doesnt restrict my rights, like government.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 1:29 pm to Nutriaitch
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murder is outlawed no matter who's the victim.
Free speech is not outlawed no matter who the perpetrator.
Self Defense is not outlawed no matter who is defending themselves.
A fair trial is granted to every individual on the planet as well.
Cruel and Unusual punishment is also not allowed on any person on the planet.
Why else would the USA be against the torture of terrorist?
Do you think torture of illegal immigrants is justified, or should the US Gov only be kept from torturing it's taxpayers?
Posted on 3/21/24 at 1:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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like government.
What rights have they restricted that you so desperately need?
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God doesnt restrict my rights
What rights has god bestowed upon you that you wouldn't have already?
Be specific please.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 1:57 pm to FATBOY TIGER
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What rights have they restricted that you so desperately need?
What kind of progressive voter are you?
Posted on 3/21/24 at 1:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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What kind of progressive voter are you?
Just as I thought, attack the man not the questions.
Who's the progressive?
Posted on 3/21/24 at 2:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
Slo and Roger
Posted on 3/21/24 at 2:18 pm to Vacherie Saint
Posted on 3/21/24 at 2:20 pm to FATBOY TIGER
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Who's the progressive?
People who question what rights govt has trampled are always authoritarian big govt types. 100% of the time.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 2:20 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Slo and Roger
I'll bust out my sig image from 2013
This post was edited on 3/21/24 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 3/21/24 at 2:20 pm to Rex Feral
100% Rex!
Let one of us try to cross borders abroad and act and talk the way they do to authorities and media.
In some countries, we’d get laid out before we even hit the border. There would be stacks of bodies in MANY COUNTRIES if this were happening.
Any liberal idiot that cannot see this, your part of the problem and the blood is on your hands
Let one of us try to cross borders abroad and act and talk the way they do to authorities and media.
In some countries, we’d get laid out before we even hit the border. There would be stacks of bodies in MANY COUNTRIES if this were happening.
Any liberal idiot that cannot see this, your part of the problem and the blood is on your hands
Posted on 3/21/24 at 2:21 pm to Westbank111
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Let one of us try to cross borders abroad and act and talk the way they do to authorities and media.
Why does that matter?
This post was edited on 3/21/24 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 3/21/24 at 2:23 pm to RogerTheShrubber
It doesn't. This argument makes no logical sense to the discussion from where it spawned. 
Posted on 3/21/24 at 2:31 pm to TigerSprings
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Free speech is not outlawed no matter who the perpetrator.
Self Defense is not outlawed no matter who is defending themselves.
A fair trial is granted to every individual on the planet as well.
Cruel and Unusual punishment is also not allowed on any person on the planet.
and?
free movement anywhere you want, anytime you want, for however long you want within the US is not restricted on citizens. But it is (or at least on paper is) for non-citizens.
voting is (or is supposed to be) restricted to only citizens.
it's also illegal (or supposed to be) to hire illegal immigrants, but perfectly legal to hire citizens.
not every single law we have treats immigrants identically to how they treat citizens.
we as citizens DO have rights that immigrants do not.
not sure why people don't seem to grasp that we have multiple examples of non-citizens having to follow a different set of rights and laws than what citizens have.
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Do you think torture of illegal immigrants is justified, or should the US Gov only be kept from torturing it's taxpayers?
do you think illegal immigrants should be allowed to vote for our president, or would that be limited to only our citizens?
do you think illegal immigrants should have the right to run for president, or should that only limited you our citizens?
just because SOME laws are applied unilaterally to every single human standing within our borders, doesn't mean ALL of the laws we have are.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 2:31 pm to momentoftruth87
Last week soldiers in the Dominican Republic shot several Haitians attempting to breach their border. None have tried since. Until we start doing this nothing will change under any presidential administration. Plenty of Illegals came here under Trump as well.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 2:53 pm to FATBOY TIGER
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What rights have they restricted that you so desperately need?
Work, live, or die without the government charging you for it. They've restricted our right to exist. It's like a poll tax but for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 2:56 pm to Westbank111
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Any liberal idiot that cannot see this, your part of the problem and the blood is on your hands
Most of us realize the govt is screwing the pooch. But dont root for more govt power when they've already proven they cant use it responsibly.
You should be able to go into your local firearm shop, walk out without the government's approving.
If you want that to happen for citizens, then jesus, dont beg govt to enhance firearm restrictions.
The language in this ruling was a win for firearm owners.
This post was edited on 3/21/24 at 2:59 pm
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