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Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Do laws keep guns out of the hands of criminals and illegals?
no law "prevents" the crime from happening.
so does that mean we just shouldn't have any laws at all since criminals will break them anyway?
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:26 pm to Nutriaitch
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says "Citizens" are entitled to Privileges and Immunities.
You do realize this is arguing against your point.
Does the 2A use the term "citizens"?
You think the Framers were so stupid that they didn't understand the difference in their words used?
Again, the man who wrote the Constitution agrees with SFP and Rog.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:26 pm to Nutriaitch
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so does that mean we just shouldn't have any laws at all since criminals will break them anyway?
Sounds like a liberal arguing for gun control
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:32 pm to RogerTheShrubber
You would think all those enlightenment guys who influenced and inspired people like Jefferson and Franklin in particular were communists....Marxists even. Natural Rights.....never heard of them. What Marxist globalist came up with that cockamamie bullshite.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:32 pm to Nutriaitch
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no law "prevents" the crime from happening.
so does that mean we just shouldn't have any laws at all since criminals will break them anyway?
No, but this angst seems far overblown since we're arguing something thats basically worthless and just hassles the law abiding
Its basically virtue signaling. We've had this same gun control argument with the libs for decades. Laws only stop good people who want to self-defend.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You do realize this is arguing against your point
you don't even know what "my point" is.
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Does the 2A use the term "citizens"?
Article IV covers the entire document, including the Ammendments.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Sounds like a liberal arguing for gun control
Thats where I was headed, but he skipped a step and blew up my plan.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:36 pm to Nutriaitch
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Article IV covers the entire document,
The PIC has literally nothing to do with the 2A
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Sounds like a liberal arguing for gun control
not at all.
just that particular argument is a stupid one.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:36 pm to KiwiHead
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What Marxist globalist came up with that cockamamie bullshi
Them freedom lovin liberuls.t.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:37 pm to Nutriaitch
Can an illegal immigrant be murdered or does he have some BS state granted right to life?
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:37 pm to Nutriaitch
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not at all.
just that particular argument is a stupid one.
So is the idea that restricting legal sales will lead to less bad stuff happening on the street.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:37 pm to momentoftruth87
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Thanks Jon ham
You are welcome, Jon Ham's butt plug.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:39 pm to momentoftruth87
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Somehow ppl think illegals have natural rights here but Americans don’t have that around the world.
Someone in America has a rt to due process.
Being an american doesnt give you a right to due process around the world.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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So is the idea that restricting legal sales will lead to less bad stuff happening on the street.
agreed, that's why I'm not in favor of restricting legal sales.
selling to an ILLEGAL alien on the other hand, well that word "illegal" means the exact opposite of "legal".
there are ways for immigrants to enter this country legally. I know quite a few people who have done it.
but if you come here illegally, then you have already shown you have no respect for our laws.
so if our laws don't pertain to you, then neither do our rights.
you don't get claim to have all the rights and freedoms we do while at the same time saying you don't have to follow our laws.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:46 pm to Nutriaitch
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Your argument is the same as the critical race pimps. Just because someone makes bad decisions doesn't mean a good idea they produce is flawed. You argue like a soy boy.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:47 pm to Nutriaitch
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agreed, that's why I'm not in favor of restricting legal sales.
selling to an ILLEGAL alien on the other hand, well that word "illegal" means the exact opposite of "legal".
So you support laws on universal background checks, right?
That makes any sale without a federal background check ILLEGAL, as well.
And you would support laws restricting "assault rifles", right?
Those laws make selling/possession an "assault rifle" ILLEGAL as well.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:47 pm to TigerSprings
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Can an illegal immigrant be murdered or does he have some BS state granted right to life?
murder is outlawed no matter who's the victim.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
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So you support laws on universal background checks, right?
That makes any sale without a federal background check ILLEGAL, as well.
And you would support laws restricting "assault rifles", right?
Those laws make selling/possession an "assault rifle" ILLEGAL as well.
support? no.
follow because they are the law? yeah
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