re: If your kid called you from school and said there was an active shooter?

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I would be willing to say it would have been more likely that it wouldn't have made a difference. 

The chances are low that a teacher carrying was in the proximity of the shooting, was able to first make sure his/her students was safe, then prepared the weapon for engagement, engaged, and then did it effectively before it was all done. 

That's a lot of specific things that have to happen perfectly, especially for people who aren't trained (like SWAT) for that situation and would also have other priorities (ensuring his/her students' safety) that would take priority. 

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Okay, since you continue to play "the hypothetical game", I'll play.

Let's say that the male football coach concealed-carried a Glock 19 (9mm with 17+1 magazine). He barricades the door of his classroom and has all of the kids take cover on the opposite side of the room away from the door. He takes cover closer to door opposite of the students. The gunman tries to enter the classroom and can't open the locked door, so he shoots several rounds at the locks to attempt to bridge the door. The coach returns fire through the door with several rounds.

What the frick do you think the shooter is going to do if he isn't hit by the shots? Continue shooting at the door and attempting to enter the room and have a shootout? Or abandon the plan to enter that room and look for another?

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What the frick do you think the shooter is going to do if he isn't hit by the shots?

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Return fire in the direction of the first shots.

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You only imagine the worst, most improbable outcome cause you're a little bitch.

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When we create the emotional disorder watch list to add to NICS, I'm nominating you for chronic vaginitis

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Gunman font like people shooting back at them.

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How many gunmen have you talked to, to get to this conclusion? He was on a campus with intent to kill. I would imagine he would shoot back to neutralize that threat. Not just walk away. Sure, he may be killed or shot, but it's equally likely that he kills that teacher and the students he / she was protecting.

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If I’m packing Nobody is coming in or out of the room. We are barricading ourselves in and not leaving until wet know the outside is secure then we are crawling out windows.

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The reality is that you may and I mean may have 2-5 teachers out of 50-100 at a school that are comfortable and trained to carry a concealed firearm at a school. There will never be a time as to where all teachers are armed. The best way to combat this once in a million threat is to leave the scene as quickly as possible.

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But I do think it would make more sense, and potentially more effective to have SROs trained to respond. More effective than teachers.

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I think we should have both.

Having all teachers armed is not an option IMp. You just need to have a handful placed strategically throughout the school so that all areas of the building can be defended.

SRO’s will not get increased because police forces are already low in numbers in every city. They can’t pull more off the road to put in a school. Reality is that there wouldn’t be enough work for more than one in a school unless there was a shooting or something of that affect.

Truth is there are a lot of things that could be potentially helpful in hypothetical worst case scenarios but are impractical or even more dangerous the other 99.9999% of the time.

Dude kicks in the door guns blazing - sure I would prefer someone armed.

Does that mean I think it’s the most practical, most effective or safest or... generally best solution day to day? It’d take more to convince me

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I think we should have both.

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OK. I'm fine with that, and I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing that SROs being trained to respond could be far more effective, and I don't think teachers being armed would have much if an effect anyways.

So are we discussing potentially effective solutions, or what you want to see. Because I you're overestimating the effectiveness if you think allowing teachers to carry would have a measurable impact.

So given that you've started multiple threads with variations of the psychological comfort knowing a teacher carrying, I'm not sure if you're just arguing for the validity of that comfort (I'll buy that) or the objective effectiveness of it as well:

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Are you A) 14 years old B) know nothing about firarms or C) a dumbass.

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Not A, maybe B, and probably C.

But since you seem to think I’m wrong, surely you could point out the problem.

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SWAT? LOL. Your local yokel deputies and city police department special weapons and tactics? Jesus. If you are placing your faith there, God help you.

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I wasn't placing my faith in them, but if you're arguing I shouldn't place faith in those who have at least had training as a function of their job, then surely you wouldn't place faith in those who are not trained and it's not a function of their job.

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your life depends on them, peace be upon you in the next life. Take responsibility for your own life.

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I will. And that means I would know that engaging a threat, unless a last resort, would be an unwise decision.