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re: “If you place me back in the White House their reign is over”
Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:16 pm to PorkSammich
Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:16 pm to PorkSammich
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What did he unravel? I thought the deep state rigged the 2020 election?
2020 election happened in his first term and the deep state started to show it's true colors the moment he came down the elevators and still are. We only know this clean up is needed because of Trump.
Thinking Desantis is going to understand how to fight the issues in DC like Trump will be, is naive.
If Trump gets in it, it will be a directive to defeat the deep state, and that's it. Desantis won't have that ability or fire to get that done immediately. He already set the excuse he'll need 2 terms to do it.
Trump is in the ring getting bloody right now while Desantis talks smack from outside of it hoping to get tagged in for the easy win. Desantis, nor his family, could handle what Trump, and his own, have had to deal with. Yet his fanbois are acting like he is going to be some kind of miracle worker out of the gate.
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:17 pm to lsuguy84
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What “muh fight”, specifically?
Trump's persona and the Patriot way.
Being irrationally aggressive to people he perceives as his enemies, seen as "fighting", which is what is most valued about him. This irrational aggression and the temperament that goes with it pissed off people from whom he needed support. This is politics, and you can't do that if you want to succeed.
Patriots claim Trump couldn't get support but can't explain how anything will be different if Trump wins in 2024.
RDS is a much more skilled politician who understands how to get that support needed to pass legislation. To the "muh fight" crowd, this is seen as being a RINO/WEF puppet/Swamp Monster (because he got support from those people to get laws passed).
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Your “would’ves” don’t carry a lot of weight with me.
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What is Desantis going to be able to differently?
Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:17 pm to Strannix
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Perceived? Are you retarded?
On the spectrum.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:18 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Now you'll argue you didn't add "perceived" in front of "enemies" to infer they aren't actually his enemies.
I don't know if he knows who are all his "Enemies" anymore. Some are real. Some are ghosts. Some are manufactured for grifting.
Hence, perceived.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:19 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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Oh Stfu! Even the most informed of us had no idea just how evil and massive the deep state was.
Well at the point Trump appointed Bill Barr and Mark Milley, Russia and comey had already occurred yet he still appointed massive “establishment” swamp creatures to key positions of the “deep state”
Sounds like trump is a slow learner, doesn’t really care, or is so susceptible to flattery that he might as well be the first two
Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:19 pm to aggressor
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Not at all. I think the point is he isn't capable of building support to actually accomplish the things he is talking about. I don't know how he can pass anything significant through Congress at this point and I have no idea how he even fills out a Cabinet with competent people much less the rest of the bureaucracy he is going to magically fix.
None of them will explain this other than with hopium that his minority splinter group will somehow take over all of Congress (when they largely failed in 2022)
This post was edited on 6/10/23 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:20 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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He’s a laughing hyena who isn’t taken seriously.
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LSUAngelHere1
That's ironic coming from you in particular
Pretty sure you're only posting here so much because you've been completely laughed out of the OT
Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
What an odd take. Interesting.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
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None of them will explain this other than with hopium that his minority splinter group will somehow take over all of Congress (when they largely failed in 2020)
tPatriots “the MAGA movement is growing and becoming more powerful”
Narrator post 2022 mid terms “they were not”
tPatriots “the election was rigged! The deep state fears us!”
It’s the perfect circle that continues to lose elections, reinforce their beliefs, and never have to examine their positions and campaign style
Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:24 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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Thanks for supporting my argument that giving him another four years is stupid.
DeSantis is the dude that has the determination, balls and take no prisoners attitude to rock DC? Hey, we may get to see what DeSantis can do but I think it will be in 2028, that’s if his political career isn’t destroyed during the 2024 primary.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:24 pm to Corso
Kari Lake.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:25 pm to lsuguy84
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What an odd take. Interesting.
What is odd about it, exactly?
Pissing off people you need to win isn't going to have you winning very much. Why Trump's first term was such a failure.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:26 pm to Adam Banks
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tPatriots “the MAGA movement is growing and becoming more powerful”
Narrator post 2022 mid terms “they were not”
Yeah I had to go edit. 2020 was supposed to be 2022.
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tPatriots “the election was rigged! The deep state fears us!”
Just like if the USSC doesn't rule in Trump's favor with this criminal stuff. They will be compromised.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:27 pm to Bass Tiger
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Hey, we may get to see what DeSantis can do but I think it will be in 2028,
2024 or bust for DeSantis.
It sucks but that's the luck fate gave him.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:27 pm to lsuguy84
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What is Desantis going to be able to differently?
This country has a massive cancer growing, and Trump was the chemo that was able to shrink it by about 10%. He fought it, but it wasn't the results we expected in the end.
By the time the next chemo treatment is scheduled, that cancer has grown back even larger than it was before.
We can go with the same old chemo treatment that shrunk it a little last time - OR - there's this experimental treatment in a clinical trial down in Florida that's showing great results. The sample size is rather small, only about 100 participants - but 99 of them were cured.
Would you choose the same chemo treatment as before, or go with the promising experimental treatment down in Florida?
Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:29 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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He’s a laughing hyena who isn’t taken seriously.
You realize we’ve seen pictures of you now. Look at you.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:30 pm to RazorBroncs
So how is Desantis going to be able to stop it?
Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:30 pm to LookSquirrel
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Damn, a whole 4 years?
Quick question. How many can he serve this time?
Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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perceived enemies
You are an extreme moderate. As a Hutchinson would be proud.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:34 pm to lsuguy84
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So how is Desantis going to be able to stop it?
Getting actual legislation passed.
Take the mythical "Schedule F". That is just an EO that will be nuked once a DEM takes over (like what Biden did to it IMMEDIATELY).
An actual Congressional action can accomplish that goal with much more likely permanence.
Trump doesn't have the political power to get much of anything passed (unless it's standard, "milk toast" GOPE stuff they've already tried to pass like tax cuts). He couldn't even get the ACA repealed.
The question is, if Trump can't get legislation passed, what can he do to "right the Deep State"? What will be different this time? Those are serious questions that no Patriots have answered in this thread.
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