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re: “If you place me back in the White House their reign is over”

Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:34 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:34 pm to
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You are an extreme moderate

I'm actually not?
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:35 pm to
And how is this going to happen?
Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:37 pm to
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You are an extreme moderate.


Much like conservative populist, a term I have only seen on PT.

Posted by PorkSammich
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:37 pm to
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Thinking Desantis is going to understand how to fight the issues in DC like Trump will be, is naive.


You said Trump did unraveling of the deep state…again what did he unravel?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:39 pm to
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And how is this going to happen?

Getting politicians to vote for your legislation.

Will Trump be able to do this if he wins in 2024? Why couldn't he in his first term? What will be different?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:40 pm to
It’s literally the problem that Trump DIDN’T understand how to fight DC battles.
Posted by Tmcgin
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:40 pm to
Imagine sitting at a rally clapping like seals while being fed these dead fish

He had nuclear secrets in his Palm Beach boarding house
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:40 pm to
How and why is Desantis going to do this?
Posted by SelaTiger
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:40 pm to
That’s what he said the first time. And then he lost to a potato.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:42 pm to
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How and why is Desantis going to do this?


How? Already been explained to you.

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Being irrationally aggressive to people he perceives as his enemies, seen as "fighting", which is what is most valued about him. This irrational aggression and the temperament that goes with it pissed off people from whom he needed support. This is politics, and you can't do that if you want to succeed.

Patriots claim Trump couldn't get support but can't explain how anything will be different if Trump wins in 2024.

RDS is a much more skilled politician who understands how to get that support needed to pass legislation. To the "muh fight" crowd, this is seen as being a RINO/WEF puppet/Swamp Monster (because he got support from those people to get laws passed).


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Pissing off people you need to win isn't going to have you winning very much. Why Trump's first term was such a failure.


Why? To win and stop Leftists.
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:42 pm to
So it’s not going to happen
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:42 pm to
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This man is either insane or toting the biggest baby makers in US political history.


He's insane for telling a bunch of his followers exactly what they want to hear? This is just "drain the swamp" using different words, and he's been claiming that for years. He's just not equipped to do it, which isn't surprising for someone without a lot of knowledge about government.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:43 pm to
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So it’s not going to happen

You're saying Trump can't win?

Are you going to answer questions or just try to play coy without any substance?
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:46 pm to
You’ve supplied nothing that’s convincing that they’re on an even playing field. Your hopes and wants aren’t going to factor into this. Nothing you’re trying to substantiate proves the other candidate will have a different outcome. Sounds good though…to you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:48 pm to
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You’ve supplied nothing that’s convincing that they’re on an even playing field.

I have clearly said that they're not.

RDS can pass legislation.

Trump has proven he cannot.

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Nothing you’re trying to substantiate proves the other candidate will have a different outcome.

No. I'm not proving anything. I'm using logic and probability for Trump's primary competitor.

What we know is Trump cannot do this, and nothing has changed to make it possible.

What we do not know exactly is if RDS can, but since his likelihood is above 0, he's a better shot to accomplishing the goal (you can't get a negative score)
This post was edited on 6/10/23 at 7:48 pm
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:53 pm to
I understand you don’t like Trump. Neither one of them will be passing anything you hope to happen. That’s what you don’t understand.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:55 pm to
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I understand you don’t like Trump.

Nowhere in this thread have I given a personal opinion about Trump.

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Neither one of them will be passing anything you hope to happen. That’s what you don’t understand.

Supporting the one who may be able to is more rational than the one who has shown cannot.
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:56 pm to
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Nowhere in this thread have I given a personal opinion about Trump.


You don’t need to. It’s well known. You people act like we haven’t been here since the 2012 elections.
This post was edited on 6/10/23 at 7:56 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:58 pm to
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You don’t need to. It’s well known.



quote:

You people act like we haven’t been here since the 2012 elections.

The transformation of Patriots into Leftists has been quite impressive.

You promote their policies.

You use their rhetoric.

bow
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21858 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:59 pm to
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Neither one of them will be passing anything you hope to happen.


So you believe Trump is full of shite with this claim and just pumping up his base?
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