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re: if you carry a gun.....

Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:16 pm to
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He had a gun, but he also went out with the intent of fricking with LEOs that day and obstructing them. That isn't a peaceful protest, no matter how much the left wants to redefine it.


Where did he obstruct anything? He wasn’t in their way until someone came over and started randomly pepper spraying people on the other side of the street.

Renee Good - justified

This one? This one is fairly egregious with what we’ve seen so far.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173449 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:17 pm to
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You know, somehow I've legally carried for 30 years and haven't been killed by federal agents.

Why is that?

Perhaps because I don't go out putting myself in harm's way by interfering with federal operations and then physically fighting the feds when they try to restrain me.

I don't disagree. But are we just going to use the text of the 2nd amendment as toilet paper now? Because it looks like that's exactly what we're doing.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173449 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:18 pm to
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Is this Martial Law in the room with us right now?

There are people clamoring for it. To be fair they're an extreme minority. But they exist
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
21137 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:19 pm to
Bringing the firearm isn’t the issue, it’s the fighting with federal law enforcement and expecting a different result, that’s the issue.

I carry most places, I also don’t fight federal law enforcement so my chances of being shot by law enforcement in self defense is statistically nil.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173449 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:19 pm to
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It’s really incredible to watch libs champion the 2a all of the sudden. I guess whatever you have to do to continue virtue signaling to all of society.

That's a nice way to distract from the fact that the alleged most ardent supporters of the 2nd amendment rolled over so easily
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
24209 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:20 pm to
He could have brought the gun and just filmed he would still be alive. However, he brought the was directing vehicles to try and block ice, he then shoved and agent in the back (a felony). While he was being apprehended he resisted after that all bets are off.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
13102 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:21 pm to
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His desire for martyrdom was greater.


And will be forgotten with the next. There will be more.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23888 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:21 pm to
Cry harder, you leftist pussy.

Your side is the root cause of the issue. You communist let in millions of illegal aliens for 4 years and now cry when Americans voted to send your comrades back home.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
29223 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:21 pm to
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Bringing the firearm isn’t the issue, it’s the fighting with federal law enforcement and expecting a different result, that’s the issue.



Oh please. When did this guy ever get the chance to fight? They jumped him.

Don't be stupid.
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
5891 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:22 pm to
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Again. I asked the other day if MAGA would turn their backs on the second amendment. It doesn't take much imagination to see that could happen. And here we are


And again I said no. They are fighting law enforcement against them doing actual law enforcement. They are protecting illegal criminals from getting deported. It's not like true gestapo officers that taking 1 race of people off the street just cause they are that race. It's stupid that we have to explain that.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5488 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:23 pm to
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You have to choose one: “The second amendment protects the first!” or “but he had a gun!”


The second amendment does protect the first.
You might get shot for exercising your rights, especially if you do it stupidly and near cops.

Rights come with responsibilities. Else they won’t last.

There may come a day when I feel compelled to go out and confront and interfere with police officers while wearing a gun. On that day, I will probably die. Or they will.
What I will never do is what this moron did, this half measure stupidity.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173449 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:23 pm to
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Your side is the root cause of the issue. You communist let in millions of illegal aliens for 4 years and now cry when Americans voted to send your comrades back home.

I have been very vocal that the Biden administration did a horrible job in the border. You're a fake conservative.
Posted by Tiger n Austin
Austin, Tx
Member since Dec 2005
6846 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:23 pm to
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This one? This one is fairly egregious with what we’ve seen so far.


It's about as plain as day that he was murdered by ICE agents with itchy trigger fingers. His crime was filming in the middle of the street, trying to help a woman up whom had been pushed down, and in an instant was involved with multiple agents (one of which took his holstered gun from his back) getting his arse kicked and then murdered. If that is obvious from watching the video then nothing will be. But hey, let's get those voter rolls b/c that is what we are really after.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:25 pm to
3 weeks ago I was near 5 deputies armed and declared. Today I'm alive still have my weapon and unharmed whatsoever. Hell, they didn't even make me disarm at that moment

Why? Cuz I didn't act like a fool and attack them in any shape form or fashion including making physical contact or refusing to obey legal order
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23888 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:25 pm to
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You're a fake conservative.


You are a leftist twat fart and everyone knows it
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3796 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:25 pm to
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Where did he obstruct anything?


quote:

He wasn’t in their way until someone came over and started randomly pepper spraying people


Make up your mind. You say he didn’t obstruct anything but now you say he got in their way. Which is it?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

I carry most places, I also don’t fight federal law enforcement so my chances of being shot by law enforcement in self defense is statistically nil.


people are acting like this guy was carrying and walked up to an officer and punched him in the face.

This isn’t even a Trump thing. Admitting this looks like it could have been a bad shoot doesn’t make you anti Trump or anti ICE.

Also I’m fully capable of admitting that carrying given the circumstances in MN greatly increases the risk that a bad outcome occurs, but it doesn’t absolve any counterparty of any responsibility when that bad outcome occurs.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5488 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

have been very vocal that the Biden administration did a horrible job in the border.


So how do we fix it?
Posted by rocksteady
Member since Sep 2013
2926 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:26 pm to
I don’t care if this shooting is finally determined to be a bad one. They can handle that how they handle every other case in which this happens.

If you gloss over the macro level operation that has been happening to get this exact result - Impede, resist, obstruct, chaos… something unfortunate will eventually happen… then you are lost.

This can be applied to every single scenario on earth. I’ll load up your car with puffer jacket grandmas with whistles slapping you and send you out there on the highway. When you get in a wreck I’m gonna call you a nazi Gestapo facist. Cool?

This environment is manufactured to get this result. Direct your anger appropriately
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38130 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:26 pm to
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It’s really incredible to watch 2a advocates celebrate the death of a legal gun carrier


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