re: If you are on ANY government assistance, you should be required by Law to take..

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How about you move to a country without any social safety nets or taxes instead of lashing out at me for your financial situation?

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How about you move to a country without any social safety ne

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Social safety nets lol. This is what YOU refer them as. They were supposed to help people out short term situations but these people you defend have chosen to settle for a free handout and depend on a government that rewards them for their laziness. Democrats like yourself fight their cause and Democrat Politicians you vote for keep that free government money flowing and they choose to stay in it because it's the easy way out. Rinse and Repeat to the next generation of leeches. My financial situation is very good thank you very much and like I said you write your personal check and keep my tax dollars out of their free loader hands.

If the Welfare Queen trope makes you feel better

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Which do you think is a greater threat to our welfare system, those abusing it or those that want to stop funding it

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People who want to quit funding it for "fraud". Not to say all fraud is imaginary but Id like to see something more than anecdotal evidence to understand how much there is.

There was an EBT thread the other day where lots rushed to judgement then it came out they maybe a foster parent using the card.

I do think a fraud is a problem as it causes a higher administrative burden to be applied to the program which then makes it more difficult for those that need it. Inevitably we end up with bloating budgets and less and less of it going to help people even with less fraud.

All this is to say if we're going to have a safety net we need to consider how much spending should go to administrative oversight/beuracracy and how much should go to benefits and getting people help. Demonizing those who need help to bloat beuracracy is dumb

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Which do you think is a greater threat to our welfare system, those abusing it or those that want to stop funding it

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My problem is that it is not being used for what it was intended to do help people out that have fallen on hard times or in your situation an unforeseen medical incident. It is the people that abuse it and have no intention on getting off of it that leads to the situation we find rampant throughout this country. The solution we fix it and use it like it was intended for and a good start is drug testing.

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poor strangers getting welfare?

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Now I see why a lot of people on TD call you out. You're fricking stupid

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Have you estimated what the cost would be to implement this

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The amount of people that would get kicked off of welfare would far outweigh the cost to implement this policy. It's pretty simple. If you test positive for any substance or refuse to take a test you will lose your government handout.

Now here's where I give you pushback and can point out not that you're emotionally wrong but while you're intellectually flawed
there are so many people who abuse substances because of a mental health issue that's not being treated
and the fallout would cause greater harm than any of us would like
That's not to excuse the abuse but you cannot out of hand change things overnight

Legislatively that is referred to as unintended consequences

It may seem very counterintuitive but the first step needs to be not cutting benefits but streamlining benefits and cutting bureaucracy

DOGE but with additional steps,, and it takes more than one Republican or conservative administration that's why I'm hopeful that if we can be methodical in our approach, a subsequent 2 term JD Vance administration Can accomplish a lot more than four years of Trumptards getting their revenge

And for clarification, I did not say Trump
I said Trumptards

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Have you estimated what the cost would be to implement this?

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Yes thats easy. Its revenue positive. If you have someone on the dole that somehow has money for drugs, it (a) stops the gov't having to fund them; (b) forces them to re-task their own money streams to food and rent rather than drugs.

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Yes thats easy. Its revenue positive. If you have someone on the dole that somehow has money for drugs, it (a) stops the gov't having to fund them; (b) forces them to re-task their own money streams to food and rent rather than drugs.

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Your assumption is that a lot of people would test positive, which would eventually lead to cost savings. Historically, that hasn’t been the case when this has been tried in various states. The cost of these drug testing programs negate any potential cost savings from unenrolling recipients who test positive.

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You’re spending a lot of time whining that other people get welfare. It really comes off as jealousy.

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You spend alot of time making excuses for people that choose to be lazy and not improve the situations around them and you blame everyone else for their situation. I served my country. How about you? Let me guess it's the worst country in the world? Honestly you come off a dumb arse liberal sky screamer.