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Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:09 pm to Morpheus
I get what you're saying.. but that's a new big expenditure.
Drug screens cost anywhere from $25-$45.
There are about 52,000,000 people on govt assistance today in the US according to Google.
Let's use the low cost for a drug screen at $20. Say the govt gets a nice low contract for it.
That's about $1.04B in total cost to screen everyone on govt assistance.
That's a lot of money.
Drug screens cost anywhere from $25-$45.
There are about 52,000,000 people on govt assistance today in the US according to Google.
Let's use the low cost for a drug screen at $20. Say the govt gets a nice low contract for it.
That's about $1.04B in total cost to screen everyone on govt assistance.
That's a lot of money.
This post was edited on 7/25/25 at 6:20 am
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:13 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
Have you estimated what the cost would be to implement this? Is that worth further increasing our debt to make you feel better about poor strangers getting welfare?
Really? The cost would not be much. Private business already has to pay that cost.
Besides, savings seen by many dropping off the roles would more than offset.
I also believe the dole should be temporary. As of now it is set up to be generational. Make looking for gainful employment part of the deal.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:14 pm to Tigergreg
quote:
The moment this gets brought up, you will be called a racist.
Does anyone ever stop to think what calling people who support this a racist actually means?
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:18 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
Have you estimated what the cost would be to implement this? Is that worth further increasing our debt to make you feel better about poor strangers getting welfare?
You're getting down voted as usual but you are actually right in this instance
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:19 pm to i am dan
quote:
I get what you're saying.. but that's a new big expenditure.
Drug screens cost anywhere from $25-$45.
There are about 52,000,000 people on govt assistance today in the US according to Google.
Let's use the low cost for a drug screen at $20. Say the govt gets a nice low contract for it.
That's about $1.04B in total cost to screen everyone on govt assistance.
Who's paying that $1B new expense?
It would only take about 700k people getting knocked off the government tit to pay for the drug tests. You would get WAAAAYYYYY more than 700k off I can assure you.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:20 pm to Powerman
quote:
You're getting down voted as usual but you are actually right in this instance
You forgot the part about the savings from people being cut off the government tit. You and her are wrong again. It would save billions.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:22 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
Is that worth further increasing our debt to make you feel better about poor strangers getting welfare?
If they are poor, where would they be getting money for drugs?
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:26 pm to i am dan
quote:Ill pay for a couple extra shares. If you have a 100,000,000 taxpayers in the US we can take a 10 buck flyer on welfare reform.
Who's paying that $1B new expense?
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:27 pm to UtahCajun
quote:
The cost would not be much.
$10 - $30 per 5 panel urine test.
Then you have to employee people to administer the tests and report the results.
847,100 people receive SNAP benefits monthly in Louisiana alone.
even if we used to low estimate of $10 per test, that's an added expense of $8,471,000, not including the expense of staff to administer, read and report the tests.
That's a lot of money to make smug people feel good momentarily.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:28 pm to Morpheus
So you cant smoke weed if you get government cheese even though its legal in most states?
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:29 pm to Morpheus
Nah my dick is in my left hand and my blunt is in the right hand.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:37 pm to Morpheus
If you cant prove a viable disability / need then you should get nothing! Laying around on your back spitting out babies isn't a viable reason. Trying to run a drug screen program under the gooberment would be a huge fricking fiasco. Just cut them the frick off.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:40 pm to Morpheus
Now Senator Rick Scott when he was governor of Florida tried this…using the testing company he was part owner of.
Something like 108 out of 4000 tested positive: Tampa news
Beside that, the failures can claim addiction which requires expensive treatment and add that to the list of costs out of your pocket.
ETA: Don’t forget the jurisdictional issues between State and Federal administration systems. If you think the judicial system has been busy fighting Trump that’s just a subtle hint of what would be coming.
Something like 108 out of 4000 tested positive: Tampa news
Beside that, the failures can claim addiction which requires expensive treatment and add that to the list of costs out of your pocket.
ETA: Don’t forget the jurisdictional issues between State and Federal administration systems. If you think the judicial system has been busy fighting Trump that’s just a subtle hint of what would be coming.
This post was edited on 7/24/25 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:42 pm to 4cubbies
5 plus years since my stroke
Doctors determined it was COVID
The virus, not the shot The virus the government let out of a Chinese lab
After examination, I was declared by the Govt to be on full disability
After a year on disability, I was automatically enrolled in Obamacare,
And they take $220 out of my disability benefits every month.
But I cannot access health care because I was coded as requesting benefits for dependents
I did not fill out any application; this was all automatically done by the bureaucrats, who were still working from home at the time.
I don't have dependents. They fricked it up and won't fix it no matter how many calls, how many hours on the phone
The system is broken, things need to change because I guarantee you I'm not the only one that's getting fricked.
I'm a US citizen, and I've worked paid taxes since I was 15, so I've paid into the system for over 40 years.
The programs should help legitimately disabled people and kids at risk
I always felt this as a Christian and as a decent human being long before I had the stroke
I am also a Straight white conservative male, pure evil in your eyes you probably think I deserve it
If you truly believe that at-risk people deserve assistance, You should also insist that the government do an efficient job and cut back on waste, and stop the abuse of the system, because the system cannot sustain itself If it goes uncorrected
and then people who deserve the help and need the help don't get the help
But I'm sure that you and your ilk believe that that's only right because straight white Christian men have abused women and children and colored disadvantage for eons
Doctors determined it was COVID
The virus, not the shot The virus the government let out of a Chinese lab
After examination, I was declared by the Govt to be on full disability
After a year on disability, I was automatically enrolled in Obamacare,
And they take $220 out of my disability benefits every month.
But I cannot access health care because I was coded as requesting benefits for dependents
I did not fill out any application; this was all automatically done by the bureaucrats, who were still working from home at the time.
I don't have dependents. They fricked it up and won't fix it no matter how many calls, how many hours on the phone
The system is broken, things need to change because I guarantee you I'm not the only one that's getting fricked.
I'm a US citizen, and I've worked paid taxes since I was 15, so I've paid into the system for over 40 years.
The programs should help legitimately disabled people and kids at risk
I always felt this as a Christian and as a decent human being long before I had the stroke
I am also a Straight white conservative male, pure evil in your eyes you probably think I deserve it
If you truly believe that at-risk people deserve assistance, You should also insist that the government do an efficient job and cut back on waste, and stop the abuse of the system, because the system cannot sustain itself If it goes uncorrected
and then people who deserve the help and need the help don't get the help
But I'm sure that you and your ilk believe that that's only right because straight white Christian men have abused women and children and colored disadvantage for eons
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:47 pm to Morpheus
What about if you are on the national flood insurance program?
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:49 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
Have you estimated what the cost would be to implement this? Is that worth further increasing our debt to make you feel better about poor strangers getting welfare?
I don’t mind taxpayer money going towards this. Might even save us money by weeding out the druggies. No pun intended.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:53 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:I agree. I just have to imagine there's another avenue for advocacy that hasn't been explored yet. Did you contact your state rep (local state rep since states administer their own SNAP benefits)?
The system is broken, things need to change because I guarantee you I'm not the only one that's getting fricked.
quote:You're hellbent on convincing me that I hate people. I do not.
I am also a Straight white conservative male, pure evil in your eyes you probably think I deserve it
I wasn't being insensitive about your stroke yesterday, FYI. I was in a car accident in college and had a brain injury. My frontal lobe was affected and I had difficulty regulating my emotions for a while.
Before anyone makes any jokes, that happened in 2005 and I remained a staunch Republican for 5 or so years after that.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 2:03 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
Have you estimated what the cost would be to implement this? Is that worth further increasing our debt to make you feel better about poor strangers getting welfare?
My insurance requires me to take quarterly blood test for the only prescription I have, get over it.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 2:04 pm to Old Sarge
quote:
I think quarterly would make the most sense
Every month before you get a check. If failed, no check.
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