re: If you are interested in generational divide of politics, Fuentes-Piers interview is great

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their grandparents didn't fight the nazis

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Mine did and I’m proud to have known the man who helped stopped the Jews from being liquidated. Thank God for their bravery and sacrifices.

But the fact that the Nazis were horrible 80 years ago doesn’t mean the Israeli government gets to be wrong in 2025 and we just have to blindly support it or not question anything that relates to that nation.

A people that wouldn’t exist if we hadn’t been the best friends they’ve ever had in history.

And a nation that wouldn’t exist if not for the largesse of the United States for three generations.

And the fact that the New Testament refers generally to the idea that Christians should look favorably on the Jewish people doesn’t mean we owe the government of Benjamin Netanyahu personally anything, nor has he acted in a way that would justify that blind loyalty.

It also doesn’t mean we’re in some suicide agreement to back them when the political leadership of the nation state of Israel (which of course does not equate to the Jewish people any more than the US government has for all Christians globally) makes some horrible decision because even the God of the Old Testament didn’t do that for them and in fact outlined in incredible detail that they continually screwed up and had to be corrected innumerable times over innumerable generations.

We owe them nothing blindly.

They owe us a hell of a lot more than we’ve gotten from them and there is zero reason AIPAC and other donors should have the unrestricted and unprecedented ability to leverage our political process to the degree they currently do.

The line that got me was when Piers was describing his three sons’ progressive views and Fuentes said, “They sound like women.”

Had me rolling. Nick is actually very funny too.

Nick's had people dox him and try to kill him. I don't agree with it. Shitty leftist move. That can become violent and another shite storm of political violence.

I know Piers says now that if he had it to do over again, he wouldn't have said his name.

But he's a leftist and knew exactly what he was doing.

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Why do you think a gay

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He's not gay. You're being a boomer and are profoundly out of touch if you think these kids give a shite where he puts his pecker.

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spokesperson for the conservative movement?

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And here's where you are, yet again, being a boomer: this isn't your Glenn Beck style of 2006 conservatism. How can you conserve that which has already been lost? How do you regain lost ground without aggressively fighting for it, and telling all fence-sitting invertebrate pussies, as well as opposition in the way, to get fricked?

"Conservatism" as you think of it was killed a long time ago, you must've missed the obituary.

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Nick Fuentes is basically Greta Thunberg for the nihilists.

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That doesn't even make sense, but the fact that you can't grasp why millions and millions of young men have become nihilists and who made them that way, along with your other comments shows you are living in a different reality than modern day. Prepare accordingly for the mind frick to your make believe reality that is on the way.

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I'm not a boomer

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The problem is when perceived stereotypes drive unfactual assertions. It's the difference between collective observation, and racism.

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If this is true the same can be asked of the conservative pro-Israel lobby as far as their refusal to engage on the facts while running around calling anyone who asks even basic questions like “why is it necessary to prevent civilian noncombatants from being able to exit the combat zone?” antisemitic?

I was called antisemitic on this website by multiple long time posters for asking why AIPAC isn’t required to register like every other foreign lobbyist group.

Thats not the approach someone who believes they have the facts on their side takes, its the approach an authoritarian takes when they’re terrified that the lack of merit of their arguments will be exposed in the light of day if they don’t end the discussion altogether.

Not one of the major Israel advocates like Stein or Levin is willing to debate anyone like Tucker on any of the facts here, which is odd considering Stein is one of the greatest debaters of our generation.

Stein in fact is the one who started Fuentes down this path by blackballing him from conservative groups for refusing to blindly back Israel according to Fuentes himself on Tuckers show.

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Fuentes

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I dislike the fact that the guy has become the face of the conservative Israeli skepticism movement because when you run around admiring Hitler that undermines everything else you say which you seem to believe as well or perhaps I’ve misunderstood your point.

He almost feels like an agent provocateur gone wrong because the sheer weight of the ridiculousness of the “greatest ally” wing position is like an anchor around the neck of anyone backing it and people are so tired and over being called racist and whatever else when they aren’t that they’re ignoring the bombast and horrible elements of Fuentes position to hear him out while being naturally disposed to back anyone who’s being canceled out of sheer habit.

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Marx did this with his proletariat attributions. Nikole Hannah-Jones does it in her 1619 project. Hitler did it with the Jews. A target is fixated, whether it be blacks, or jews, or whites, or boomers, or capitalists. Then a thesis is formed to establish the target as responsible a range of issues for which the target as far less than the total responsibility attributed.

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This is absolutely true and is 100% happening on the left currently in regards to “whiteness” which they view and openly state is the “enemy”.

But it’s also fair to point out that there are elements of the Jewish community that organize and act collectively across international borders and that these interests are extraordinarily influential both in terms of political and economic power.

That’s not to say that every Jew is collectively responsible for what those groups do or say, it it’s also not antisemitic to oppose the aims those groups who are organized on religious lines advocate anymore than it is racist for a white person to disagree with the political aims of an Asian person because they disagree with their political aims.

If those groups want something that the conservative movement opposes fine, but the idea that someone in America should be deplatformed merely for voicing opposition to it or to a small middle eastern nation half a world away is insane and will absolutely lead to a backlash that is not going to benefit anyone involved.

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Tell us about your experience

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Also never been a slave.

That’s why I don’t make insensitive comments like “just forget about it bro.”

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Why do you think a gay autistic kid is a good spokesperson for the conservative movement?

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Yall really need to get off this. Its not effective and only makes YOU look stupid

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dickkellog

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Smh boomers yall are the worst