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re: If we could peacefully split into two nations, would y’all be in favor of it?

Posted on 9/16/25 at 6:58 am to
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35369 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 6:58 am to
Both new countries sign their unconditional surrender document and present it to the Chinese Premier
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51539 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 7:09 am to
The idea of spitting into two nations is fatally flawed because human nature would not change, and the new conservative nation would soon form left and right, and you’d be right back where you were.

Think of this nation - the USA - back in 1945. It was rock solid conservative by today’s standards. And seventy years later it elected Barak Hussein Obama.
Posted by ClemsonKitten
Member since Aug 2025
396 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 7:14 am to
Is this what the lost cause daughters told you because this is completely false?
Posted by ClemsonKitten
Member since Aug 2025
396 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 7:15 am to
It will definitely be more than 2
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40905 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 7:26 am to
Without a single thought even if it meant losing my nonexistent Social Security.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35369 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 7:28 am to
If I'm the Southern part of this country I would think twice about this. You would have enemies to your North and your West and if someone were sneaky enough to your south in Mexico. This ain't 1861 with Mexico fighting a French army in the center of the country
Posted by Bread Orgeron
Baw Bakery
Member since Aug 2006
11863 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 7:38 am to
I’m partial to Balkanization as in this example:

Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
25988 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 7:38 am to
Yes. 100%
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61331 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 7:45 am to
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No. America would be weakened and World War III would erupt.

China would pull a 1920s-1930s Japan and make a move on the entire Indo-Pacific.

Russia would push further into Eastern Europe.


If it were a peaceful separation, I don’t see why we couldn’t retain our individual sovereignties and come together militarily in times of war like the Greek City-States. We’re Macedonia though.

Posted by R11
Member since Aug 2017
4939 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 7:46 am to
Absolutely

We need a divorce.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
18765 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 7:49 am to
Hell naw.

They hate America, all it stands for, consider it an institutionally racist built on stolen land without honor and needs to be eradicated country.

Why would we give up one inch or one parish to people like that?

They want America destroyed and rebuilt in Marx's image. We want it to continue as a capitalist Republic and to continue to improve (as it has) for more generations.

You can't continue by giving it away, in part or whole, to those who want to destroy it.
Posted by Red_and_black
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2014
550 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 7:57 am to

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Arizona, Cali, Oregon and Wash


No. Our side must have Pacific ocean access. PERIOD. Its insane not to for both military and commercial necessity. Dont need them all but a piece of one. Say San Diego. And Keep AZ as a spring board encase we need Baja.

Beyond stupid not to have a Pacific bases or port with the appropriate road and air infrastructure.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6018 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 7:57 am to
Better, if you believe communisms or socialism is the way to go you are immediately deported to the communist or socialist country of your choice. We will even trade people for you.
Posted by Sailjuggernaut
Member since Jan 2024
200 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:00 am to
As long as all the libs move out of our territory.
Posted by Red_and_black
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2014
550 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:02 am to
quote:

They hate America, all it stands for, consider it an institutionally racist built on stolen land without honor and needs to be eradicated country.



Totally true, but imagine what a large scale war civil war would entail: A global war. No way the big nations stay on the sidelines of the US goes to war with itself.

A negotiated divorce is the far better option if political solutions cant be found.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
12346 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:03 am to
No, don’t give an inch.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170274 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:05 am to
No. It wouldn't make sense geographically. Left/right politics are more urban vs rural.
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
4341 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:05 am to
I believe you could combine the American Western States, Republic of the Midwest, and Southern Republic of America. On top of that you could also add eastern Washington, eastern Oregon, western PA, western NY and western MD. Pretty much take a line from Harpers Ferry, WV and run it straight north adding everything west of it.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22787 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:06 am to
It might be the best option.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5860 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:08 am to
no because the establishment republican have most of the power and money and would give away all our money to Ukraine and Israel
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