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re: If u don't like the government start using and investing in Bitcoin or other cryptos

Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:46 am to
Posted by DingleBarry
Member since Aug 2021
320 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:46 am to
pretty sure thats what the SEC / XRP / and US GOV all have in common currently
Posted by AlterEgo89
Member since Sep 2021
135 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:46 am to
Because a bitcoin wallet is secure.....

Honestly, I want to know what fantasy you guys who advocate this are living in.

Banks are backed by the US government - you're not going to lose your assets and if you have, trust me, there are much bigger problems at stake i.e. collapse of the entire country, civil war etc.
Posted by DingleBarry
Member since Aug 2021
320 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:47 am to
braveheart face paints and quotes are all RET TA GO
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:49 am to
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And the us dollar can't be, what do u think the fed does when it prints money



The Fed can participate in open market operations precisely because of the demand. In times of economic uncertainty, the USD is still highly-sought after. There is a bit of inherent demand too that will keep the USD valued fairly high.

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But they can make them worthless by printing a shite ton of it.
The only reason the dollar is worth anything right now is because most countries buy oil in the dollar, china and Russia are actively trying to change that



But the reason they can print is because balance of accounts is usually settled in USD, not just for oil, but for everything. Even if Russia and China settle accounts in currency other than USD, the USD will remain a reserve currency, along with the Pound Sterling, Euro, Yen, and eventually the Yuan. The Euro has a larger portion of the currency reserve balance than the other potential challengers, and is far more likely to settle accounts, in an international trade sense, than the Yuan.
Posted by andersBlake
Member since Jul 2021
154 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:53 am to
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The whole point using bitcoin is to decouple from government and not pay taxes

Let us know how that works out for you.


I'm starting to think conservatives are the weakest group of people in this country, they only act tough on the internet whenever there guy is in office, a sitting president just went on tv and said he was tired of y'all's shite and this how y'all act, at least socialist had enough balls to take to the streets when trump was president, all I see from conservatives is fake tough guy 2nd amendment memes
Posted by APHA
Corpus Christi
Member since Mar 2013
544 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:53 am to
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The problem is, digital currency can still be controlled and manipulated. Ultimately they're just ones and zeros on a computer screen. It's the Dominion Voting Systems of monetary exchange mediums. The best money is still cash. Physical money. Even if it's fiat like USD. You can't seize my Benjamin's without prying them out of


Read up a little on Bitcoin before you talk it down. Centralized vs decentralized.
This post was edited on 9/12/21 at 11:55 am
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
20276 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:55 am to
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If u don't like the government start using and investing in Bitcoin or other cryptos


right, because the corrupt government can't completely shut down the digital currencies and reach in and steal them from you.
Posted by andersBlake
Member since Jul 2021
154 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:59 am to
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You are assuming that governments can't and won't take over crypto. I'm sorry, but I just don't see that not happening.

The government can't take over something that is decentralized, they can regulate it in there own country but they can't take it over
Posted by andersBlake
Member since Jul 2021
154 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 12:04 pm to
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If u don't like the government start using and investing in Bitcoin or other cryptos



right, because the corrupt government can't completely shut down the digital currencies and reach in and steal them from you.


Do u think they can't do this with the dollar, did the president not just say u can't use a bank unless vaccine passport
Posted by andersBlake
Member since Jul 2021
154 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 12:12 pm to
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Honestly, I want to know what fantasy you guys who advocate this are living in.



The one we're a sitting president just went on tv a told half the country he was tired of there shite
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Banks are backed by the US government - you're not going to lose your assets


But what if u can't use the bank because u aren't vaccinated or think a certain way

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there are much bigger problems at stake i.e. collapse of the entire country, civil war etc.



Hence getting decoupled from country about to collapse
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25907 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 12:36 pm to
In a true economic crisis only tangible assets will be worth having. Something you can barter with, eat or use to protect yourself. Bitcoin won’t do you a bit of good if the grid comes tumbling down or there is a food crisis.
Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
29355 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 12:50 pm to
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pressure your local government and business leaders to make Bitcoin and other cryptos accepted or payed out

They have to be able to tax it first
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13559 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 12:56 pm to
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The problem is, digital currency can still be controlled and manipulated. Ultimately they're just ones and zeros on a computer screen. It's the Dominion Voting Systems of monetary exchange mediums. The best money is still cash. Physical money. Even if it's fiat like USD. You can't seize my Benjamin's without prying them out of my cold dead hands. In person. Tangibly.

You have no idea what you are talking about boomer
Posted by andersBlake
Member since Jul 2021
154 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 12:58 pm to
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In a true economic crisis only tangible assets will be worth having. Something you can barter with, eat or use to protect yourself. Bitcoin won’t do you a bit of good if the grid comes tumbling down or there is a food crisis.


Decoupling from federal gov would be hard at first but it can be done without bartering living in stone age, Texas has it own power grid, maybe other states should start building there own
This post was edited on 9/12/21 at 12:59 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 12:59 pm to
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Honestly, don't do this.


Soon you may not have a choice. Central banks are developing their own digital currencies (CBDCs) and the question for you is do you want to hold CBDCs that will be inflated just like the dollar or transfer your savings into other digital asset that cannot be printed?
Posted by andersBlake
Member since Jul 2021
154 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 1:01 pm to
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pressure your local government and business leaders to make Bitcoin and other cryptos accepted or payed out


They have to be able to tax it first


That would up to the local government and people that live there
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 1:05 pm to
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pretty sure thats what the SEC / XRP / and US GOV all have in common currently


The SEC is going to lose its lawsuit against Ripple/XRP. Plus XRP is bigger than anything the SEC can control.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 1:08 pm to
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But the reason they can print is because balance of accounts is usually settled in USD, not just for oil, but for everything. Even if Russia and China settle accounts in currency other than USD, the USD will remain a reserve currency, along with the Pound Sterling, Euro, Yen, and eventually the Yuan. The Euro has a larger portion of the currency reserve balance than the other potential challengers, and is far more likely to settle accounts, in an international trade sense, than the Yuan.


The USD has had a good run. Reserve currencies change about every 82 years.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
15217 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 1:09 pm to
Uh, that's good advice for getting arse raped by the irs
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
15217 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 1:11 pm to
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Read up a little on Bitcoin before you talk it down. Centralized vs decentralized.


This sounds like someone who just learned about crypto in the last two years.
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