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re: If Trump could simply focus on signal and avoid the noise he wins in a fricking landslide.

Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:40 am to
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44325 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:40 am to
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For better or worse, the voters at the margins aren't holding out for some magic combination of words a candidate might be able to string together on "policy." As much as I wish that were the case, it's not even close to being so.


While I would rather you not be correct, I believe that you are.

Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60945 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:40 am to
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If Trump could simply focus on signal and avoid the noise he wins in a fricking landslide.


Landslides, unless a miracle happens, are a thing of the past.

Ballot harvesting/ mail in ballots aka FRAUD killed that dream.
Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
18917 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:41 am to
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They would not have the racial/identity politics stupidity to fall back on, like they are currently.


horse shite... that's literally the foundation of the democrat party

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Remember how baffled they were at the debate?


Because Biden was in the throws of sundowning?

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He needs to keep doing that. They have no response.


We're clearly not watching the same movie.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
31099 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:41 am to
AMEN!!!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477250 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:42 am to
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A legit question given the thread.

You're literally creating in/out dynamics (when they are not necessary or needed) and I don't think you even realize it



Review the "Thought" column.

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Are you still of the opinion that TD has no leftists?

Are you still of the mindset that an assassination attempt is no biggie?

And now you're devolving to an attempt at diversion and a straw man fallacy.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44325 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:42 am to
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Care to name some?


Lou Pai and Disturbed Buckeye immediately come to mind. Perhaps Fun Bunch as well. There are others. I called them out months ago.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44325 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:43 am to
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And now you're devolving to an attempt at diversion


Yes you are…

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Are you still of the opinion that TD has no leftists?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36756 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:44 am to
Huge, nasty, embarrassing brain fart, not only saved for posterity’s sake but is its own devoted thread. For all of us to see.



1) The impetus for how many now, 15 near identical threads on this topic was the black journalists thing - he just shouldn’t have brought it up amirite? Guess what guy? He didn’t bring it up. He was asked a question ahout it and did what you’re supposed to do when a person asks you a question.

2) If you’d just prefer that he mellow out and be cool as a cucumber and roll with the punches…..well you haven’t been dragged through the mud along with your family for all the world to see for 8 years, impeached twice in an effort to destroy your legacy and your life’s most important work, then just for good measure shot by a lunatic who was no doubt influenced by the sum total tense and dangerous atmosphere created by all the above. I’d say he’s got license to be salty whenever and wherever he sees fit.

You’re not dead to me, but you are in a coma.
This post was edited on 8/2/24 at 1:41 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477250 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:45 am to
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. I get pissed when he does stupid shite that lowers the likelihood of his winning. So, I talk about the dumb shite he does that lowers the chances of him winning as I wish he would stop doing it.

It seems there is a special level of annoyance reserved for when the people being rational (like above) also predict cult-like responses, like we are seeing in this thread.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44325 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:45 am to
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The impetus for how many now, 15 near identical threads on this topic


Copycat, or concerted effort.

Either way, it has the same effect, to do the work FOR the Dems.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477250 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:46 am to
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it has the same effect, to do the work FOR the Dems.


Do not question the groupthink or you support the enemy



Seriously, you should look into the BITE model.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44325 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:48 am to
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It seems there is a special level of annoyance reserved for when the people being rational (like above) also predict cult-like responses, like we are seeing in this thread.


Annoyed by what, someone’s shite take.

Annoyed, nah.

I’m simply attempting to enlightenment those that would currently prefer to lose with dignity.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:48 am to
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For better or worse, the voters at the margins aren't holding out for some magic combination of words a candidate might be able to string together on "policy."

As much as I wish that were the case, it's not even close to being so.
I agree. But, Trump’s negatives on race, personality, are his biggest weaknesses. Democrats are focusing on that for a reason.

Focusing on policy won’t likely swing a bunch of swing a bunch of voters. It will help with turnout. It will help with Trump defense fatigue.
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
27409 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:49 am to
I think Trump played this well this week. If he hammers this home at rallies, it’s a miscue. Throw the grenade in the room, walk away, and pivot the media narrative next week. He can marionette the media into another talking point next week.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44325 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:49 am to
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Seriously, you should look into the BITE model.


There are times that I think that you are on the spectrum, and then there are times that you illustrate your issues for all the world to see.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110970 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:53 am to
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I agree. But, Trump’s negatives on race, personality, are his biggest weaknesses. Democrats are focusing on that for a reason.

Focusing on policy won’t likely swing a bunch of swing a bunch of voters. It will help with turnout. It will help with Trump defense fatigue.




I agree for the most part. Of course, to be clear, I'm neither advocating he not address policy at all or assuming he won't.

I simply recognize there are other things that need to be at play as well, and when dealing with trying to appeal to an entire nation this size and with all it's disparate desires, it's a hell of a dance you have to do with appealing to some and hoping to not alienate others.
This post was edited on 8/2/24 at 11:56 am
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44325 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:54 am to
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But, Trump’s negatives on race, personality, are his biggest weaknesses. Democrats are focusing on that for a reason.


Good.

It is exposing them as a one trick pony.

It is easy to vote Dem if you are ignorant. Sadly, most people blindly believe the crated narratives of the left and the MSM.

He turned into the path of the torpedo before it could be armed. Then, he fired back.

I believe it to be a wise move.

Some of y’all have concluded differently…



Posted by aubie101
Russia
Member since Nov 2010
4116 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:56 am to
Trump is Trump. He is playing into their hands because he is so predictable. Democrats have this all but locked up due to the moron.

Trumpers screwed America. Thankfully , this is gonna be the end of the Trump era after this next failure.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:56 am to
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I want Trump to win. I get pissed when he does stupid shite that lowers the likelihood of his winning. So, I talk about the dumb shite he does that lowers the chances of him winning as I wish he would stop doing it.
But how will you show your purity to Dear Leader?

While the Cult45 members love jumping on every opportunity to defend Trump, most are tired of having to constantly defend him. At this point “no really, he’s not a racist!” is just tiring. People with mixed friend groups… eventually stop. So the social pressure to vote for Trump goes away. It’s a big part of why Trump’s ceiling is so low, and he does so poorly in purple areas.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44325 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:57 am to
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Trump is Trump. He is playing into their hands because he is so predictable. Democrats have this all but locked up due to the moron. Trumpers screwed America. Thankfully , this is gonna be the end of the Trump era after this next failure.


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