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re: If the wall is just a silly orange man idea

Posted on 1/6/19 at 10:09 am to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 1/6/19 at 10:09 am to
It is actually
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 1/6/19 at 10:10 am to
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Do you lock the doors on your house at all?

I remember being at the beach one time when I got a text from my neighbor. She said, "Your back door is wide open." I asked her to walk through the house with her dog, and just pull the door shut on her way out.




It's all about risk management. The odds are so thin that anything would actually happen (in spite of what you're bombarded with on your social media), that I just don't invest much in guarding against extremely unlikely events.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 1/6/19 at 10:10 am to
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There is nothing responsible about the way our government operates and the number of employees there are.




Well it seems to be getting better

Particularly as a share of overall population

Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 1/6/19 at 10:12 am to
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I remember being at the beach one time when I got a text from my neighbor. She said, "Your back door is wide open." I asked her to walk through the house with her dog, and just pull the door shut on her way out.




It's all about risk management. The odds are so thin that anything would actually happen (in spite of what you're bombarded with on your social media), that I just don't invest much in guarding against extremely unlikely events.


So you don’t lock your doors at night when you’re asleep?

Because if this is the case, you’re another prime example of the aforementioned adage.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/6/19 at 10:13 am to
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it is actually


Help me understand why

You think the hoard of federal employees is how we hold corporations accountable?

I can follow that. Still there is tons of waste in my opinion and government is not right sized.

Also the pay structure is not modern and even if shut down goes for months you will hear of "people dying in the street" but very few of these fed employees will leave job
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/6/19 at 10:15 am to
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Well it seems to be getting better 

Particularly as a share of overall population 


Just because it shrank doesn't mean it has decreased fast enough with efficiencies in the way business is done
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
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Posted on 1/6/19 at 10:15 am to
At the end of the day, liberals are nothing if not consistent. They think socialism will work despite all the evidence to the contrary. They now think walls won’t work, despite all the evidence to the contrary.

Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 1/6/19 at 10:31 am to
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At the end of the day, liberals are nothing if not consistent. They think socialism will work despite all the evidence to the contrary. They now think walls won’t work, despite all the evidence to the contrary.


My grandfather used to have a saying: “Locks are for honest people”. Meaning that they’re deterrents to people who might have casual thoughts about entering a place unwanted. If a person is desperate enough to get into something, a lock won’t stop him.

Same thing applies to a wall. If a person wants to get into the US illegally badly enough, thru some effort, he’s gonna find a way around a wall. But a wall is a starting point. It’s going to narrow down the number coming across and that makes all the other measures that are in place more effective.
This post was edited on 1/6/19 at 10:32 am
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/6/19 at 10:35 am to
Nationalist = Fascist?

This tells me you don’t even know what Fascism is.

Go back to reading Cosmo, bitch.
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 1/6/19 at 10:41 am to
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Same thing applies to a wall. If a person wants to get into the US illegally badly enough, thru some effort, he’s gonna find a way around a wall. But a wall is a starting point. It’s going to narrow down the number coming across and that makes all the other measures that are in place more effective.


This. The fact that there’s a non-zero amount of people who will manage to get over the wall doesn’t mean the wall isn’t either deterring people from attempting or preventing their success despite their attempts.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
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Posted on 1/6/19 at 10:42 am to
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If a person wants to get into the US illegally badly enough, thru some effort, he’s gonna find a way around a wall.
Exactly.

If we ever had a President whose goal it was to Make America Great Again, he'd be fighting like a motherfricker to do away with the welfare state, and all other incentives for illegals to come and freeload off of, thus effectively rendering a wall unnecessary.

But we don't have a President like that, and never will, unfortunately.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
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Posted on 1/6/19 at 10:46 am to
I was led to believe a wall would be 99% effective.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
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Posted on 1/6/19 at 10:47 am to
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I was led to believe a wall would be 99% effective.
And Mexico is going to pay for it.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/6/19 at 11:00 am to
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So you don’t lock your doors at night when you’re asleep?

One of them - sometimes. I've been in this house for most of the past 25 years. Some kids rolled through one time about 15 years ago. They took my piggy bank and a cheap lap top. Apparently, if your stereo doesn't have a remote control, they're not interested. And no, a 1960 Marantz doesn't have a remote control.
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Because if this is the case, you’re another prime example of the aforementioned adage.

It's a lifestyle choice. I choose not to live my life in fear, the reward of being afraid isn't worth it to me.

Hell, I remember living in a house in Mid-City in New Orleans where, not only did the front door not have a lock, the latch didn't even work. We had to drag a little side table behind it to block the door from opening all the way. It was almost always open the width of an arm, until I realized that if we left the kitchen window open, the wind would usually push the front door shut. Of course, that was back in the early 80's when wearing an onion on your belt was the style of the time...

Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
88972 posts
Posted on 1/6/19 at 11:03 am to
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It's a lifestyle choice. I choose not to live my life in fear, the reward of being afraid isn't worth it to me.


It’s not about living in fear. It’s about taking routine precautions. Kind of like wearing a seatbelt.

But hey, you do you.

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Of course, that was back in the early 80's when wearing an onion on your belt was the style of the time...


Ok, I legit lol’d. Hat’s off on that one. Nice reference.
This post was edited on 1/6/19 at 11:06 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49513 posts
Posted on 1/6/19 at 11:07 am to
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I'm going off of the vibe I get from politicians in Washington and their view

I think it really is symbolic. I don't think anyone on the hill really thinks a wall makes that much of a difference


I have almost zero respect for "the vibes from politicians in Washington" - Their only vibe is to get re-elected = by any means necessary.

I don't believe a single person thinks that a wall wouldn't work - regardless of their rhetoric.

Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/6/19 at 11:08 am to
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And Mexico is going to pay for it.


Correct
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
88972 posts
Posted on 1/6/19 at 11:12 am to
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Correct


I think he legitimately believes that the idea is that Mexico is going to literally write a check.

“Pay to the order of Donald Trump...”
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 1/6/19 at 11:14 am to
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Correct



I think he legitimately believes that the idea is that Mexico is going to literally write a check.

“Pay to the order of Donald Trump...”
No, I legitimately believe that Trump will cook the books to make it look like Mexico is paying for it, and his flock of sheople will jizz themselves silly over all the winning.

But it's a moot point anyway, there will be no wall.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
88972 posts
Posted on 1/6/19 at 11:20 am to
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No, I legitimately believe that Trump will cook the books to make it look like Mexico is paying for it, and his flock of sheople will jizz themselves silly over all the winning.


And you’d believe that whether it was true or not. No matter what evidence was shown you.
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