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re: If so few people are illegally crossing the border, why the huge increase in ICE spending?

Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:26 pm to
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17490 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:26 pm to
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We are over $30 trillion in the hole. We need to start cutting everything not adding on this enormous amount that won't amount to a hill of beans the next time a democrat comes in


If you are deporting illegals.. you are ending a perpetual cost to the taxpayers. It’s very very very simple. Spend the money to remove, or pay their expenses while they stay.

It’s the exact same thing as complaining about spending 10-15 billion on the border wall and border security. Whelp. That was just tooooo much!!!

What have we spent by NOT doing that?
This post was edited on 7/8/25 at 2:27 pm
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23957 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:28 pm to
Are you fricking stupid.?.. Seriously... are you THAT fricking stupid?


No really.
This post was edited on 7/8/25 at 2:29 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61432 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:30 pm to
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The government has no right to know who you hire as a business owner.


So how are taxes reported?
Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
1503 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:30 pm to
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Deporting illegals cuts down on the spending for benefits for illegals to include healthcare and education.



and to guarantee we don't stop spending money we increased ice budget by 265 percent, so no savings there.

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We’ve pretty much stopped illegal immigration with exactly that.


Did we build a wall in 6 months?

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Some of you people think we can just wave a wand and make that happen. Quit living in a fantasyland.


So now not supporting socialism is a fantasy land? You are a whooped puppy.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17490 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:30 pm to
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What year did defense spending decrease?


So.. as predicted.. you didn’t check the Obama years before doubling down.

Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61432 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:30 pm to
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By GDP?(the number that matters) Around 2015ish probably.



I can't find data that supports this.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:32 pm to
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So now not supporting socialism is a fantasy land? You are a whooped puppy.


I’m and adult who realizes that you can’t get everything you want in one fell swoop in our current form of government. You’re a child who rants on the internet to strangers because you read Ayn Rand in high school.
Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
1503 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:32 pm to
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If you are deporting illegals.. you are ending a perpetual cost to the taxpayers. It’s very very very simple. Spend the money to remove, or pay their expenses while they stay.

It’s the exact same thing as complaining about spending 10-15 billion on the border wall and border security. Whelp. That was just tooooo much!!!

What have we spent by NOT doing that?


We didn't need a wall or ice until we turned into a socialist country. The answer is to not spend anything on citizens or noncitizens. Thats the goal, everything else is putting a band aid on a broken bone
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98236 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:32 pm to
How else can you get 30mill ppl.out?
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23921 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:33 pm to
Imagine being this stupid and not knowing the difference between Border Patrol and ICE
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:33 pm to
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I can't find data that supports this.


Try googling defense spending by GDP by year. That would probably do the trick
Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
1503 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:34 pm to
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So how are taxes reported?


Tax goods not income
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17490 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:36 pm to
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Try googling defense spending by GDP by year. That would probably do the trick


I literally put a graph in my post right above hers.
Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
1503 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:42 pm to
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I’m and adult


Yea we're both adults and Ayn Rand was wrong at her core, she was an atheist but disliked the government. I'm a Christian coming at this from a Christian perspective. Putting a gun to someone's head and taking their property is not a Christian thing to do. As a Christian it is not right to initiate the aggression. I hold the government to the same standards. Obviously our founders did to or we wouldn't have a country right now
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19575 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:43 pm to
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Why is this necessary if people aren't crossing the border and we're deporting around 700 people every day?


700/day? Should be 7,000/day, hence the budget increase. Know your brain doesn't work very well but this should be obvious.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:44 pm to
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Yea we're both adults and Ayn Rand was wrong at her core, she was an atheist but disliked the government. I'm a Christian coming at this from a Christian perspective. Putting a gun to someone's head and taking their property is not a Christian thing to do. As a Christian it is not right to initiate the aggression. I hold the government to the same standards. Obviously our founders did to or we wouldn't have a country right now


Ok neat.

Now try living in reality. You’re never going to have the utopia you’re describing.
Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
1503 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:49 pm to
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You’re never going to have the utopia you’re describing.


Not with that attitude
Posted by Wellborn
Cypress, TX
Member since Oct 2014
5195 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:53 pm to
The E in ICE = ENFORCEMENT
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20704 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:54 pm to
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4cubbies
You really are this ignorant ... I mean you really ARE THIS IGNORANT.

I'd try to help you but I don't know how to communicate with sub first grader knowledge!
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
11197 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:54 pm to
To remove all the illegals that Biden let in. Duh!!!
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