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If one San Francisco politician gets her way, even robots will have to pay taxes
Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:49 pm
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If a worker loses a job to a robot, who pays the city and state tax revenue that the formerly employed worker paid in? Right now, nobody does.
That's where the idea of a "robot tax" comes in.
In an interview with Quartz earlier this year, Microsoft co-founder and billionaire Bill Gates said he believes governments should tax companies' use of robots. It's an idea one San Francisco politician is now trying to advance to the next level.
"I think automation is a good thing," San Francisco Board of Supervisors member Jane Kim told CNBC's "On the Money" in an interview, "but there will be a downside to this technological progress and workers will be left behind."
To try to combat that, Kim has created a committee called the "Jobs of the Future Fund."
"We're exploring continuing the payroll tax and extending it to robots that perform jobs humans currently do," Kim explains. Companies would pay into a fund, the same payroll tax and social security the replaced worker was due.
Kim told CNBC that the goal "is to help smooth this transition, help workers that are displaced by their jobs re-educate and retrain."
She added that the money could be used to train workers for future jobs, provide free community college, and "invest in creating meaningful and high wage jobs in industries that are currently hard to automate like child care workers, which is currently a poverty profession."
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Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:50 pm to Street Hawk
Maybe she's ahead of her time. That will in all likelihood become an issue one day.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:53 pm to Street Hawk
Was there not a tax on the sale of the robot? Do you not tax the profits of the business?
Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:53 pm to Street Hawk
We are literally the only sentient beings in the universe who fear technological change.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:54 pm to Street Hawk
quote:
"We're exploring continuing the payroll tax and extending it to robots that perform jobs humans currently do," Kim explains. Companies would pay into a fund, the same payroll tax and social security the replaced worker was due.
It is OK if an individual looses his job just so the State doesn't loose money, yeah this is crazy, really crazy
Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:56 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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We are literally the only sentient beings in the universe who fear technological change.
I don't see how you can conclusively say that.
But in 20 or so years, we will no longer be the only or even most intelligent species on this planet. We do have to start planning for it. It is inevitable bar nuclear holocaust or an asteroid.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:59 pm to Street Hawk
Neither Corporations nor machines nor property ever pay taxes.
Only people pay taxes.
Only people pay taxes.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 1:02 pm to Street Hawk
quote:I always laugh when Democrats talk about how “the rich” are greedy. What’s more greedy than this idea? I honestly cannot think of anything that tops it.
In an interview with Quartz earlier this year, Microsoft co-founder and billionaire Bill Gates said he believes governments should tax companies' use of robots. It's an idea one San Francisco politician is now trying to advance to the next level.
To borrow from Barry “at some point, haven’t you taxed enough already?”
This post was edited on 10/8/17 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 10/8/17 at 1:03 pm to TrueTiger
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Only people pay taxes.
As I said, that is probably going to change in the foreseeable future.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 1:04 pm to OMLandshark
quote:repeating it won’t rehabilitate it.
As I said, that is probably going to change in the foreseeable future.
This post was edited on 10/8/17 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 10/8/17 at 1:14 pm to Street Hawk
Was previously proposed.
Not unique to this person.
Long term issue.
Automation continues to reduce need for humans, while reactionaries fight against birth control.
No trumpkins address it.
Not unique to this person.
Long term issue.
Automation continues to reduce need for humans, while reactionaries fight against birth control.
No trumpkins address it.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 1:19 pm to CelticDog
People are to enjoy life, while
Robots are to do work.
Get on board.
Pay taxes with less payroll. Everybody wins.
Robots are to do work.
Get on board.
Pay taxes with less payroll. Everybody wins.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 2:12 pm to Street Hawk
But what about illegals?
Posted on 10/8/17 at 2:54 pm to Street Hawk
So this is only relevant for machines that look human in shape?
What about the machines that have been welding and putting together cars and all sorts of things for years? They don't look "human" so are they still okay?
This is fricking stupid. What machinery is a "robot" and what isn't? What about the self checkouts at Walmart? Are those "robots"? They are doing what a human used to.
The revenue is taxed already.
What about the machines that have been welding and putting together cars and all sorts of things for years? They don't look "human" so are they still okay?
This is fricking stupid. What machinery is a "robot" and what isn't? What about the self checkouts at Walmart? Are those "robots"? They are doing what a human used to.
The revenue is taxed already.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 2:59 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
We are literally the only sentient beings in the universe who fear technological change.
Literally, you cannot know that.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:03 pm to gthog61
Yea, guess what "robots" have put more people out of work than any other and have been around more than 100 years?
Tractors.
We taxing tractors as people now?
This whole automation thing is not new.
Tractors.
We taxing tractors as people now?
This whole automation thing is not new.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:04 pm to Street Hawk
Have modern Democrats ever had an idea that didn't involve more taxes?
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:06 pm to Street Hawk
What's next, robot rights? I remember an episode of Star Trek Voyager where the characters literally argued for holograms to have civil rights... holograms... /facepalm
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