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re: If Goldberg is correct & theses were classified or highly sensitive messages, he is guilty
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:37 pm to SallysHuman
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:37 pm to SallysHuman
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When he figured it out why didn't he alert, notify, retreat?
He did. When he realized it wasn't a hoax, he removed himself from the group.
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He has far more access and contacts than a nobody like me, different kettle of fish entirely.
Do you think he has unfettered access to the VP?
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:37 pm to 4cubbies
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someone shoved classified/sensitive information in his face and you think the person who unknowingly saw the sensitive info shoved in his face should be prosecuted. ids this correct
Did he log off or continue to listen? (I tried to type really slowly so you could follow.)
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:38 pm to mwade91383
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ust because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's not true.
You are missing several fricking pages of how to even classify documents and who has the authority.
The info itself wasn't classified.
Here i can give you just one piece, derp.
quote:
22. Specific
operational
information
U or S or S//REL
(as appropriate)
Specific operational information can be unclassified or secret.
Which would include step by step actions or timelines.
See, i can do it too.
This post was edited on 3/26/25 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:38 pm to 4cubbies
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He did. When he realized it wasn't a hoax, he removed himself from the group.
And retained potentially classified, definitely sensitive material which he then shared with others who were NOT a part of the chat group.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:39 pm to mwade91383
This post was edited on 4/12/25 at 1:26 am
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:40 pm to dgnx6
It’s amazing the amount of gaslighting you ppl do to yourselves.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:41 pm to RiverCityTider
It was likely a CIA setup from the get go to undermine Trump. They've been pushing for everyone to use Signal and now we know why.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:41 pm to mwade91383
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All you've pointed out is you don't have a clue what you're talkign about.
You have to ignore Goldberg's own account to doubt his criminal conduct. There's a great likelihood that he's lying but you're simply proving once again that you're willing to make a complete fool of yourself to back your side.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:44 pm to dgnx6
I never said it had to be classified, nor does the Espionage Act say that it has to be classified for a crime to be committed.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:47 pm to mwade91383
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It’s amazing the amount of gaslighting you ppl do to yourselves.
Lol, you posted some randos screenshot from x.
self awareness is lacking with you.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:51 pm to VOR
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You’re more concerned with Goldberg than the people who screwed up? lol
After the Biden admin actually caused the death of 13 soldiers, I'm not too concerned with a mistake made that cost us nothing.
We also saw the Biden admin lie continuously about the illegal immigration and that led to the deaths and violent injury including rape of many of Americans.
You never commented on any of that. You are a hypocrite.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:51 pm to RiverCityTider
The kicker is that he waited until the day before a scheduled congressional hearing to drop it.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:51 pm to theballguy
That would work only if Goldberg himself had a clearance. This is why in SCiF situations you have cybersecurity personnel who typically have a CI and FS Poly monitoring the access. Sys Ads and Network types. Discussions of this type, at least at the outset and pre execution should be done on site. If Biden was doing it, it was a problem. If Trump's people are continuing, they should stop
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:56 pm to dgnx6
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you posted some randos screenshot from x.
If you say it enough times, maybe it'll come true!
Posted on 3/26/25 at 5:29 pm to SallysHuman
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I wondered about that... staying in a situation you've not got security clearance for without notifying them seems a wee bit shady.
well here is the short of it. He wasnt sworn in on it. He was added to the unsecure chat, so therefore he has no obligation. Any attempt to pin something on him is just trying to shift the focus from the real problem.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 5:31 pm to GamecockUltimate
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He was added to the unsecure chat, so therefore he has no obligation.
What of sharing the information he gleaned?
Posted on 3/26/25 at 5:33 pm to moneyg
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After the Biden admin actually caused the death of 13 soldiers, I'm not too concerned with a mistake made that cost us nothing.
this is a really shitty argument to make.. It isn't like Signal hasnt been the target of hackers within the last few months. Now you add in that the inner circle is using it talk about sensitive information, that makes all of those people legitimate targets for data mining. It isn't that a journalist saw it, it's that it happened and probably has been happening on an unsecure device.
The other issue is that the admin that told us they would be the most transparent is messaging on an app that doesnt archive conversations. It's avoiding the FOIA
Posted on 3/26/25 at 5:35 pm to SallysHuman
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What of sharing the information he gleaned?
well he didnt share more until all the republicans publicly called him a liar, and denied anything was there. Listen this way you all saw what was in it. Any other way youd still be denying anything actually was in there and youd all be calling him a liar and blindly defending our sec dept
Posted on 3/26/25 at 5:38 pm to GamecockUltimate
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well he didnt share more until all the republicans publicly called him a liar, and denied anything was there.
'Did not!', 'Did too', is not any kind of reasonable excuse.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 5:38 pm to SallysHuman
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What of sharing the information he gleaned?
1st Amendment. You can generally only go after people who sign non-disclosure agreements. If I tell a reporter about a secret squirrel program he can publish the next day and he can't be touched. I can because I signed a piece of paper saying I wouldn't, but he's in the clear.
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