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re: If Epstein has all been "a big hoax" Trump should pardon Maxwell
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:14 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:14 pm to RollTide1987
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Services to who? Why haven't any of the Johns been prosecuted? If they were engaged in the solicitation of prostitution of minors, they were committing felonies and need to be charged.
The only John mentioned in testimony was Epstein
A follow-up story after rumors started swirling from the AP
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The Associated Press spoke with lawyers and law enforcement officials in criminal cases of Epstein and socialite former girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell who said they hadn’t seen and didn’t know of a trove of recordings. Indictments and detention memos do not reference the existence of videos of Epstein with children, and neither was charged with possession of child sex abuse material even though that offense would have been much easier to prove than the sex trafficking counts they faced.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:15 pm to davyjones
I wish a reporter would ask Trump if he would want an old man prosecuted if that man raped Ivana or Kai when they were 14.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:17 pm to VOR
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What does being “named” mean
This. I agree with Vor like .01% of the time but people need to chill. I get the anger and I want the truth too, but can you imagine the chaos of just dropping a batch of something that “names” by way of association with Epstein 1000s of people while almost all are innocent?
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:18 pm to Roughneck2020
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I wish a reporter would ask Trump if he would want an old man prosecuted if that man raped Ivana or Kai when they were 14.
That man was in jail to stand trial and is now dead.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:18 pm to RobbBobb
There are victims available to testify. Y’all are trying to justify the DOJ refusing to investigate legitimate rape and kidnapping.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:20 pm to Roughneck2020
I’m not trying to justify shite.
I think this is the biggest disaster of the new admin BY FAR from day one how they handled it. If they have evidence, bring charges, no matter who they are or how important they are.
The issue is no one trust our government will do that. That’s why the public wants them themselves, if they won’t give us justice we will get ourselves… type of thinking
I think this is the biggest disaster of the new admin BY FAR from day one how they handled it. If they have evidence, bring charges, no matter who they are or how important they are.
The issue is no one trust our government will do that. That’s why the public wants them themselves, if they won’t give us justice we will get ourselves… type of thinking
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:21 pm to Roughneck2020
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There are victims available to testify.
Multiple victims testified at Maxwells trial and only named her and Epstein.
What other victims are you referencing?
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:22 pm to Roughneck2020
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I wish a reporter would ask Trump if he would want an old man prosecuted if that man raped Ivana or Kai when they were 14.
Epstein was charged and is dead.
This post was edited on 7/16/25 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:22 pm to Roughneck2020
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There are victims available to testify.
They did testify. Against Maxwell, about Epstein
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:23 pm to lsufan31
AskJeves paints a different picture, my friend
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:24 pm to td01241
Think if some woman, let’s say your neighbor with whom you have a very unfriendly relationship for whatever reason, decided she was going to get you good. She went to the police station and accused you of playing with her 10 yr old daughter’s private parts. You and I know full well that it’s 110% false. However a police report is made anyway, documenting the exact despicable words the woman used to accuse you. Ultimately the report lands on the prosecutor’s desk and he declines to prosecute for lack of credibility. However some person comes into the police department and demands any reports of child sexual abuse. They comply and your report is released to the general public with the reasoning that “let things fall where they may.”
You get the point I’m sure. And I know someone’s going to come along and take this at a different angle and say “there’s no comparison whatsoever!!” but between you and me we know what specific “sub-topic” we’re discussing together.
You get the point I’m sure. And I know someone’s going to come along and take this at a different angle and say “there’s no comparison whatsoever!!” but between you and me we know what specific “sub-topic” we’re discussing together.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:27 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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And who did they testify they rendered services to?
Jeffrey Epstein. The court transcript of her trial can be found online.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:27 pm to davyjones
I totally understand where you’re coming from and I think I’ve made it clear that is a very real important concern that should be heavily weighed into how things are done.
In a perfect world our DOJ would just bring charges if they have them. But almost no one alive trust our government at all.
So I guess the ultimate question is would you want it to stay totally buried and never know what, if anything, or how deep it went? Or let the files fly and justice be served in the public. Both are shite options
In a perfect world our DOJ would just bring charges if they have them. But almost no one alive trust our government at all.
So I guess the ultimate question is would you want it to stay totally buried and never know what, if anything, or how deep it went? Or let the files fly and justice be served in the public. Both are shite options
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:31 pm to RobbBobb
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They did testify. Against Maxwell, about Epstein
Objective reasoning left the building long ago. Epstein was a disgusting human and our hate for him along with anyone that might have been involved tainted objective reasoning.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:31 pm to deathvalleytiger10
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:32 pm to Roughneck2020
That’s a twitter link. I’m a boomer.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:36 pm to VOR
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What does being “named” actually mean?
I believe that they were named in the Maxwell defamation case of 2015 along with over 100 other names. They were not accused of any wrongdoing.
The disclosure of the court files by the judge included the names of victims, friends and associates of the sex offender and Ghislaine Maxwell.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:36 pm to RobbBobb
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There was sworn testimony by the victims that they were recruited by Maxwell to provide services
Yet are these reliable witness? The entire Epstein Case was a Democrat PSYOP to get Trump.

This post was edited on 7/16/25 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:37 pm to Ingeniero
You’re not supposed to connect those dots like that…
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:40 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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Yet are these reliable witness? The entire Epstein Case was Democrat PSYOP to get Trump.
OK, how about the gigabytes of images discovered in the raid, where Epstein is the only male listed in videos and photos? Is physical media not reliable? Prior to the rise of AI?
This post was edited on 7/16/25 at 8:47 pm
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