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re: If Biden won 2020 legitimately

Posted on 7/20/26 at 9:38 am to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/20/26 at 9:38 am to
Are you confused by what I said or are you trying to dissect it in a way that makes it mean something other than what it clearly means?

Both are possible for you.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
140547 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 9:49 am to
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Through about 10 middleman actors. Even giving Fauci that vicarious "involvement", go re-read what you quoted.
I read what you said. You were responding to someone implicating Fauci in a Covid related conspiracy. What you said is the equivalent of saying that Donald Trump has no direct involvement with our military activity in Iran.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
32160 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 9:57 am to
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I'm not Joe Biden.

If I had to guess, there was a concern about politically-based prosecutions by the Trump admin, but that's just a guess. You have to ask Joe Biden that question to get the real answer.


Jesus Christ....
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
480879 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 10:00 am to
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Are you confused by what I said

Not at all. I just think a person of your intelligence is above that and you're being silly. Why? I'm not sure.

Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4916 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 10:10 am to
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Check out this establishment simp. Proven liars pushing official results who deny transparency based on standing can suck a dick.


Name-calling doesn’t lighten the burden baw.

If the certified result was wrong, show the evidence that overturns it. If you can’t, all you’ve really challenged is your own patience.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
48093 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 10:25 am to
You know what's crazy? Democrats literally cheat at everything. Immigration and asylum law, foreign aid, lawfare and judicial activism, state child and elder programs, insider trading, domestic spying, SPLC, they destroy evidence, ignore subpoenas, lie to congress, cronyism, censorship, etc. Even when it comes to the democratic process, they gerrymander, rig their primaries, refuse to comply with federal election officials, fight any and all election integrity efforts, pass insane laws like national popular vote, let illegals vote, and such.

But miraculously, out of sheer commitment and admiration for the American way of life, REFUSE to extend this unscrupulous behavior to the ballot box. There, and ONLY there, they are perfect!
That, my friend, is the definition of integrity!
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
140547 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 10:46 am to
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Get em team SFP
Nah, there is a distinction in the content patterns. SFP is a logical contrarian. The other guy is an all hat no cattle partisan.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
48093 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 10:52 am to
sfp is just a basement-dwelling egomaniac who believes his intelligence to be preeminent. He believes he can win any debate, regardless of the insanity of his position, by out smarting and out lasting everyone else. If his forum of choice was a leftist echo chamber, his post history would appear maga AF. In short, he has no convictions except in his own abilities.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49730 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 11:00 am to
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I just think a person of your intelligence is above that and you're being silly. Why? I'm not sure.

That should be the epitath on your tombstone - IF you are a real person.

Sometimes I get the impression you are not a real human being - you seem to be ignorant of - or deliberately dismissive of - actual human interaction where ideas are exchanged and evaluated on the spot using available truths and logic.

You would be a really obtuse person to sit beside at a football game where penalties are committed, penalized, ignored, unnoticed, or incorrectly assigned a whole lot of the time.

HOWEVER - grandmothers can be detained, arrested, sit in jail for their appearance at a political rally that was intended to show support for the OFFICIAL objection to certain states' electoral count on Jan6.

However circumstances prevented that event from occurring - It seems that at just the precise moment certain policemen took down barriers that held the crowd from getting too close - and then hundreds of planted "federal agents' in the crowd began their 'insurrection activity' giving Nancy Pelosi no choice but to declare an EMERGENCY so that alll the carefully assembled 'EVIDENCE' never got a chance to be acknowledged one way or the other - DONE - BIDEN IS DECLARED POTUS !!!

Note that we did not try to impeach him - not one time - for all his manifest failures and abject lawlessness - it seems NOBODY wanted to impeach him - perhaps it was the fear of an even more idiotic personage in the form of Kamala Harris - who knows.

But I DO know you have not uttered a SINGLE WORD about the mountain of nefarious circumstances that surround J6 - but vent your fury at those poor citizens who were lured into a trap by the grand Empress herself - Nancy Pelosi.

You do not even seem disturbed about the MURDER of a civilian by a member of the capital police - not even a comment - hell - they even award that shitstain a MEDAL.

Yet, there are no vast demonstrations by REPUBLICANs - we try to keep our differences at the discussion level rather than gathering in the streets spitting on law enforcement.

There is a vast gulf between you and I - WE obey the court decisions even when we think they are wrong. - but we reserve the god-given and constitutional protected right to DISCUSS our greivances.

YOU on the other hand, have only one tenet = SHOW ME THE EVIDENCE - and you are the one who gets to declare that the only EVIDENCE you will even acknowledge is some mystical court definition - whereas WE just want to have logical discussions of topics of interest/disagreement.

WE think that subversive officials can do a LOT to alter "evidence" and/or ignore it at their pleasure or direction. YOU think it is up to US to stop that - but deny us the well regulated elections that allow that to happen.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4916 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 11:00 am to
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You know what's crazy? Democrats literally cheat at everything. Immigration and asylum law, foreign aid, lawfare and judicial activism, state child and elder programs, insider trading, domestic spying, SPLC, they destroy evidence, ignore subpoenas, lie to congress, cronyism, censorship, etc. Even when it comes to the democratic process, they gerrymander, rig their primaries, refuse to comply with federal election officials, fight any and all election integrity efforts, pass insane laws like national popular vote, let illegals vote, and such. But miraculously, out of sheer commitment and admiration for the American way of life, REFUSE to extend this unscrupulous behavior to the ballot box. There, and ONLY there, they are perfect! That, my friend, is the definition of integrity!


That’s a wagonload of accusations, Vacherie, but none of it proves a ballot was changed.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
48093 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 11:02 am to
why would a ballot have to be changed?

There are a hundred ways to cheat.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49730 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 11:08 am to
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quote:
Are you confused by what I said

Not at all. I just think a person of your intelligence is above that and you're being silly. Why? I'm not sure.


unreal - what a self-description
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
140547 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 11:09 am to
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That’s a wagonload of accusations, Vacherie, but none of it proves
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4916 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 11:19 am to
Pick the method. Show where it happened, how it was verified, and whether it changed enough votes to matter.

A hundred unlocked doors do not prove anybody walked through one.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4916 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 11:23 am to
That cartoon’s got the joke pointed backward bubba.

In it, the broken wagon is sitting there in plain sight. In your argument, the “broken wagon” is the very thing you still haven’t proved exists. So you’re not mocking a man for ignoring the obvious. You’re drawing the conclusion into the picture, then laughing because somebody asked how it got there.

Nice little cartoon, though. Saves you the trouble of carrying the missing premise yourself.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
140547 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 11:32 am to
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In it, the broken wagon is sitting there in plain sight.
It is a broken wheelchair, nitwit
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91887 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 11:33 am to
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CrystalPreserves




you possess zero perspective, objectivity, rationality or critical thinking skills commie.

you cannot debunk any of the hundreds of links of evidence posted here. i mean shite you have zero common sense. arguing truths that are self evident with you is futile. this is a great analogy for you.

you are the donkey below.


The donkey told the tiger, "The grass is blue."
The tiger replied, "No, the grass is green ."
The discussion became heated, and the two decided to submit the issue to arbitration, so they approached the lion.

As they approached the lion on his throne, the donkey started screaming: ''Your Highness, isn't it true that the grass is blue?"
The lion replied: "If you believe it is true, the grass is blue."

The donkey rushed forward and continued: ''The tiger disagrees with me, contradicts me and annoys me. Please punish him."

The king then declared: ''The tiger will be punished with 3 days of silence."

The donkey jumped with joy and went on his way, content and repeating ''The grass is blue, the grass is blue..."

The tiger asked the lion, "Your Majesty, why have you punished me, after all, the grass is green?"
The lion replied, ''You've known and seen the grass is green."

The tiger asked, ''So why do you punish me?"
The lion replied, "That has nothing to do with the question of whether the grass is blue or green. The punishment is because it is degrading for a brave, intelligent creature like you to waste time arguing with an arse, and on top of that, you came and bothered me with that question just to validate something you already knew was true!"

The biggest waste of time is arguing with the fool and fanatic who doesn't care about truth or reality, but only the victory of his beliefs and illusions. Never waste time on discussions that make no sense. There are people who, for all the evidence presented to them, do not have the ability to understand.

Others who are blinded by ego, hatred and resentment, and the only thing that they want is to be right even if they aren’t.
When IGNORANCE SCREAMS, intelligence moves on.


Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4916 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 11:39 am to
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It is a broken wheelchair, nitwit


Broken wheelchair. fair correction.

Still doesn’t fix your broken logic.

You corrected the method of transportation and left the argument lying in the road bubba.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
48093 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 11:41 am to
well, here is essentially the problem. Which of course you knew when you posed the question. You are asking me to litigate the election and win when the methods used make that impossible to prove. For example, if I show you a video of someone harvesting votes in a state where harvesting is illegal, you will challenge me to find those votes in order to disqualify them - which you know cannot be done. Or cases where people were arrested an prosecuted for such behavior, even cases where illegals were prosecuted, and votes were never able to be traced and "cured" in response. Or courts retroactively allowed ineligible votes to be counted or cured, as they did in Pennsylvania. Or cases where ballots were scanned multiple times, as they were in Fulton County. The system is literally designed to be legally impenetrable, which is largely the complaint coming from election integrity advocates. At minimum, thousands of examples of fraud and ineligible votes, but not a single vote was ever corrected in the totals, nor will it ever be. All in an election decided by less that 50,000 votes coming out of a handful of democrat strongholds.

So we can show you abundant examples of fraud, malfeasance, and outright incompetence - but without access to everything - something blue states REFUSE to share- it can never be proven to have swayed the outcome. And we keep going around in circles. Which is why you framed the question the way you did.

Its not just about the ability to cheat, which should be clear. Its about the absolute lack of traceability making these elections impossible to ever validate.

But I will say this. You are going to start taking this stuff very seriously when the right gives up on trying to fix it and starts cheating better and smarter than the welfare queens of Atlanta and Milwaukee ever could. But by then, it'll be too late for any of us.

Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4916 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 11:43 am to
That’s a fine little fable, but like NC, you cast the parts backward.

I’ve asked you to choose your strongest link and explain what it proves. You answered with insults, a pile of unexamined links, and a story about people who mistake certainty for evidence.

The tiger in that tale knew the grass was green because he could see it. You keep insisting yours is blue, then pointing toward a hundred fields you haven’t bothered to walk.

So yes, arguing with an arse can waste a man’s time. The trouble is, the loudest braying in this thread keeps coming from the fella who brought the donkey story.
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