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re: If Biden won 2020 legitimately

Posted on 7/20/26 at 11:43 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
140607 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 11:43 am to
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There are people who, for all the evidence presented to them, do not have the ability to understand.
Indeed.

Case in point:
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NCT:

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CP:
That cartoon’s got the joke pointed backward bubba.
In it, the broken wagon is sitting there in plain sight. In your argument, the “broken wagon” is the very thing you still haven’t proved exists. So you’re not mocking a man for ignoring the obvious. You’re drawing the conclusion into the picture, then laughing because somebody asked how it got there.
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NCT:
It is a broken wheelchair, nitwit
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CP:
Broken wheelchair. fair correction.
Still doesn’t fix your broken logic.
You corrected the method of transportation
and left the argument lying in the road bubba.


and then he doubles down...
quote:

That’s a fine little fable, but like NC, you cast the parts backward.

This post was edited on 7/20/26 at 11:51 am
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4938 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 11:47 am to
An inability to prove a claim ain’t evidence that a claim is true bubba.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6796 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 11:48 am to
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An inability to prove a claim ain’t evidence that a claim is true bubba

You speak as if the inability to prove a claim is the same as the inability to present proof of the claim
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4938 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 11:49 am to
That emoji’s doing some heavy lifting, bubba.

When your argument won’t stand up, I suppose laughter is the last chair left in the room.

Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6796 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 11:51 am to
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When your argument won’t stand up, I suppose laughter is the last chair left in the room

Arguments never stand up unless given the opportinity to be heard.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4938 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 11:54 am to
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You speak as if the inability to prove a claim is the same as the inability to present proof of the claim


I understand the distinction.

You can present material offered as proof without that material actually proving the claim. Evidence has to be authenticated, connected to the allegation, and sufficient to support the conclusion drawn from it. Election deniers leap right over all of that.

A man can point at many tracks.
That proves something passed through. It doesn’t prove it was the horse he named, carrying the rider he accused, headed where he claims. Pointing and sputtering that the tracks are “proof” is not the same as following them home.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6796 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 12:02 pm to
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You can present material offered as proof without that material actually proving the claim. Evidence has to be authenticated, connected to the allegation, and sufficient to support the conclusion drawn from it. Election deniers leap right over all of that.

Many forensic experts compiled and looked over said date prior to attempting to bring to the courts. Courts claimed "no standing" nothing else.

Those defending the election leap right over that as well as a mountian of statistical data evidence just to say "it never happened". It is a denial of evidence that was never given a chance at its day in court.

But you keep doing you bruh.

BTW, love the verbosity. Really makes you look like you know what you are talking about
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
140607 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 12:04 pm to
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your argument won’t stand up
Perfect!


This post was edited on 7/20/26 at 12:09 pm
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
3484 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 12:06 pm to
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4938 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 12:18 pm to
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forensic experts compiled and looked over said date prior to attempting to bring to the courts. Courts claimed "no standing" nothing else. Those defending the election leap right over that as well as a mountian of statistical data evidence just to say "it never happened". It is a denial of evidence that was never given a chance at its day in court. But you keep doing you bruh. BTW, love the verbosity. Really makes you look like you know what you are talking about


“Evidence exists” is not the same as “the claim was proved,” and “a court dismissed one case for standing” is not the same as “no court ever examined anything.”

That mountain of statistics still has to survive verification. Otherwise it’s just a tall pile with a nice view.

But I do appreciate the note on verbosity. Nothing says “my argument is holding up” quite like commenting on the opponent’s prose.
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
3484 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 12:21 pm to
K, populist
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
11817 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 12:35 pm to
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CrystalPreserves


STILL here?

Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2460 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 12:42 pm to
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STILL here?



a grateful nation salutes his service
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4938 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 12:52 pm to
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STILL here?


Of course, just not as often as you. You should post less.
Posted by Bandit1980
God's Country
Member since Nov 2019
4680 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 12:56 pm to
Biden legit.................Trump legit.


Same is same.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24429 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 1:21 pm to
Off hand, if he did win, what happened to those voters in 2024? What happened to the 3 1/2 million voters from 2020 who did not participate in 2024?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481014 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 1:26 pm to
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if he did win, what happened to those voters in 2024? What happened to the 3 1/2 million voters from 2020 who did not participate in 2024?




That 3.71M isn't supposed to cover the entire 3.5M, but it's a lot of them I'd imagine. And that's just 10 Democratic states.

Kamala's biggest losses were in DEM states who still voted DEM heavily in 2024.

DEM enthusiasm was clearly very low
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40366 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 1:44 pm to
Asked and answered many times over (including directly above)

In general, it’s just not that weird for 2020 to be an outlier in basically every conceivable way.

“When you hear hoofbeats, think of horses, not zebras.”
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
140607 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 2:00 pm to
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“When you hear hoofbeats, think of horses, not zebras.”
Right.

The same premise would hold for those claiming mail-in balloting can be carried out as corruption free as in-person voting.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
48147 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 2:08 pm to
no. evidence is evidence.

and we have evidence - you just hide behind the systems intentional complexity and legal ambiguity, and its unwillingness to pursue truth as "evidence" that something hasn't happened, or it happened but not enough to change anything. We'll never know - that's by design.

But that in no way means we don't have a problem or we shouldn't fix it.
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