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re: Idaho is doing what needs to be done everywhere
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:04 am to 1BIGTigerFan
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:04 am to 1BIGTigerFan
Sounds like utopia to me. Maybe I’ll retire to Idaho?
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Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:05 am to dstone12
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In thirty years when Idaho economy is known to have been rolling, the libs will then move there, too.
Boise will be the next Portland/Austin/Atlanta/Nashville that leftists move in like locusts and change the politics of the entire state.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:08 am to 1BIGTigerFan
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and take control of federal public lands, which make up more than 60% of the state.
How could they actually accomplish this?
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dictate what is taught in schools
How could this be done? Drop the need for Dept of ED money?
This sounds wonderful and all, but the states are on the govt teet too. What are they going to do to get this done? Especially since the feds control the ability to drill on intrastate land.
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 11:48 am
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:10 am to Screaming Viking
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So the freedom for the kid does not matter??
I don't know what you mean? Freedom for the kids to do what? If you're referring to their education, then the parents should have the freedom of school choice. We should have more school choice in this country.
But if someone starts a charter school and in addition to the standards of reading, writing, math, etc that must be taught, wants to teach CRT, and parents want to enroll their kids in that school, then they should have that freedom.
You'd have the freedom to not enroll your child.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:14 am to lsu1919
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Seems like true freedom would be letting people have abortions whether you agree with them or not, enrolling your kids in a school that teaches what you want them taught and letting others do the same, and letting people make their own choices about their health.
I'm all for less government, but that includes letting people choose stuff I don't agree with. Kinda how it should work on both sides.
This actually sounds like what every liberal fears and says the right really wants deep down.
Agreed. It wouldn't be some 100% free utopia, Idaho just becomes the new Federal Govt in this scenario.
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 11:28 am
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:22 am to 1BIGTigerFan
Yep that's how it's supposed to be done; our Fore Fathers would be proud
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:23 am to lsu1919
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Seems like true freedom would be letting people have abortions whether you agree with them or not, enrolling your kids in a school that teaches what you want them taught and letting others do the same, and letting people make their own choices about their health.
Well you have homeschool if you want to teach your kids what you want them to learn. I'm sure they won't get rid of private schools, maybe?
The abortion thing you have a point on, with better education, teaching responsibility and not pushing it as a form of birth control would see a drop in the need or want for abortions.
And the health thing seems exactly what you are asking. Minus the abortion thing. That I can make my own decision. The government can't enforce it on me. This is a pushback on mask mandates and vaccine passports. What the left is pushing that you say they are so scared about.
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 11:25 am
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:26 am to Screaming Viking
The average American has not yet realized what is occurring around them ..... property rights, freedom of speech, right to privacy ... these are the things that make up a truly free society.
The average American still likes to believe they have these things .... that these rights have not been infringed upon ... and they would be dead wrong. These things are already gone as we once knew them.
"When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion–when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing–when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors–when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you–when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice–you may know that your society is doomed." - Ayn Rand
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Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:27 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Agreed. It wouldn't free some 100% free utopia, Idaho just becomes the new Federal Govt in this scenario.
So the Idaho state government, like it should be.
The fed is there to regulate interstate commerce, provide a postal service and provide defense of our borders.
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 11:27 am
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:29 am to dgnx6
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So the Idaho state government, like it should be.
The fed is there to regulate interstate commerce, provide a postal service and provide defense of our borders.
I have no issue with that, but don't act like the citizens of Idaho suddenly are granted all this freedom. They are just getting a more powerful State Government which happens to make laws they generally agree with.
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 11:30 am
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:30 am to lsu1919
Abortion kills people. That is not very free for the baby.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:30 am to Landmass
Too close to California. Won't be long till they move there and turn it into exactly what they were trying to get away from. No escaping it.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:32 am to Mickey Goldmill
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have no issue with that, but don't act like the citizens of Idaho suddenly are granted all this freedom. They are just getting a more powerful State Government which happens to make laws they generally agree with.
Yeah that's the point.
We are too diverse to live under one umbrella, the world is.
We have too many competing ideas, cultures, religions.
So if I like what's going on there I can leave Louisiana. If I don't like it there but say damn, I really like how Louisiana governs, I move there.
And then we wouldn't have huge cities in small areas dictate one large country.
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 11:35 am
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:33 am to VADawg
Locusts is a good term for the leftists that move south.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 12:11 pm to BuzzSaw 12
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Sounds like utopia to me. Maybe I’ll retire to Idaho?
Yep
Posted on 6/9/21 at 12:17 pm to lsu1919
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I don't know what you mean? Freedom for the kids to do what?
Not be butchered and have their bodies sold!
Posted on 6/9/21 at 12:31 pm to lsu1919
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Seems like true freedom would be letting people have abortions
Everyone has freedom to utilize birth control. At present, the baby facing the blender has no freedom- no say in the matter.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 12:45 pm to concrete_tiger
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"Far-Right"
Scary! Must be Nazis!
I keep telling my oldest son that no matter what definition you read about Nazism, Fascism, Socialism or Communism, in practice there isn't a hairs difference.
He gets annoyed.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 12:58 pm to AURaptor
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dictate what is taught in schools, have complete say over public health rules and gun laws, and take control of federal public lands
Sounds like a Democrat utopia. It’s been the party platform for 60 years.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 12:59 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
Need to start doing this with Public Schools too.
If not public, create Private option that promotes:
1) Accountability
2) Discipline
3) Respect & Zero Tolerance
4) Parental Involvement
Must sign a waiver and discipline can be up to paddling, if necessary.
If not public, create Private option that promotes:
1) Accountability
2) Discipline
3) Respect & Zero Tolerance
4) Parental Involvement
Must sign a waiver and discipline can be up to paddling, if necessary.
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