re: ICE Agent Shot in California

What does being a Ice agent have to do with what happened?

But him being a Ice agent had absolutely nothing to do with what happened

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The Feds could have declared an emergency in Minnesota and used National Guard MPs or other assets that were trained for crowd control.

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What in the everloving F**K are you blabbering about??!

CSNY made a song about exactly that.
It redefined an entire administration.
The song is "Ohio."

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Even assuming he were committing a crime when shot

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WAIT!
WHAT?

Even assuming?

On what planet are you living?

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you didn't say "yeah, my bad" when I pointed out that I had purposefully used the term "DHS" to cover ICE and BP and CBP

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Ivory, I don't psychoanalyse your posts.
Sorry, that's not a put down. It simply is what it is.

Nor, BTW, do I spend an ounce of time researching your post history. I simply respond to what you're sending to me or others in line of sight. The post I responded to SPECIFICALLY USED ""ICE"" as terminology. Not a gotcha on my part. Just a point of specifity.

As my post obviously hurt your feelings, be clear, my intent is to keep things factual. PERIOD!

If you post something unfactual .... as you did .... expect me to correct it. I expect the same in response.

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Most of y'all divide the world into good guys and bad guys.

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Again, and I cannot emphasize this enough, you make a MAJOR MISTAKE when you attempt assumptions as to my views. You frankly do not really understand your own.

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probably not" .... "if"

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Right. This is what responsible say before all the facts are known.

Again, enough time has elapsed for either the agent or ICE to come up with an explanation to counter what Fresno PD has said that we probably would have heard about any rebuttal...but maybe it exists.

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If you post something unfactual .... as you did .... expect me to correct it. I expect the same in response

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I like this approach. I apologize for speculating on motives or psychology.

What did I post that was "unfactual?" The two women that the agents pushed towards Pretti were not charged with anything. They weren't interfering with the agents. They were blowing whistles. Pretti was simply videoing the scene with his phone. He was protected by the 1st AND 2nd Amendment.

While DHS claims that they were trying to take Pretti into custody, the question becomes "for what?" They weren't trying to arrest the women. Pretti wasn't trying to interfere with an arrest.

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provides the most comprehensive official account yet of Pretti's killing, which has triggered widespread outcry from members of both parties.

According to the report to Congress, CBP agents were conducting an operation in Minneapolis on Saturday morning when an officer was "confronted by two female civilians blowing whistles." The officer ordered the women to "move out of the roadway," the report said. That's when CBP agents first encountered Pretti.

"The [CBP officer] pushed them both away and one of the females ran to a male, later identified as 37-year-old Alex Jeffrey Pretti, a US citizen," the report said. "The [CBP officer] attempted to move the woman and Pretti out of the roadway. The woman and Pretti did not move. The [CBP officer] deployed his oleoresin capsicum (OC) spray towards both Pretti and the woman."

CBP agents then "attempted to take Pretti into custody," according to the report.

"Pretti resisted CBP personnel's efforts and a struggle ensued. During the struggle, a BPA yelled, 'He's got a gun!' multiple times," the report said.

"Approximately five seconds later, a [Border Patrol agent] discharged his CBP-issued Glock 19 and a [CBP officer] also discharged his CBP-issued Glock 47 at Pretti. After the shooting, a BPA advised he had possession of Pretti's firearm," CBP added. "The BPA subsequently cleared and secured Pretti's firearm in his vehicle."

The new information provided by CBP differs from the initial accounts offered by the Department of Homeland Security, which said in a statement over the weekend that one Border Patrol agent had fired "defensive shots."

In that statement, DHS also said Pretti "approached" the CBP agents with a 9mm semi-automatic firearm. But CBP's report to Congress makes no claim that Pretti tried to reach for his firearm.

In the hours after the shooting, DHS Secretary Kristi Noem alleged that Pretti approached federal agents with a gun in what she described as an effort to kill officers, and Border Patrol commander Greg Bovino accused Pretti of trying to "massacre law enforcement" — allegations that did not appear in the Office of Professional Responsibility's report

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CBS News, January 2026: Preliminary Report to Congress

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provides the most comprehensive official account yet of Pretti's killing

CBS

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.... take CBS's word for it .

False flag?

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take CBS's word for it .

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This is the kind of forensic crap that I was talking about. Make it about CBS. Anyhow....

Here's the entire report. You're welcome. Read it for yourself, Hoss.

Show me where Pretti was accused of any crime.
The most that can be said was that the agents were trying to move him out of the roadway. They hadn't ORDERED him (note that unnamed civilians had been...but not Pretti) out of the roadway...so, there was no refusal of a lawful order.

Also DHS doesn't have the power to enforce traffic regulations. "Being in the Roadway" isn't a
law DHS can enforce. NOTE: the women weren't accused of breaking any laws. How could Pretti have been?

Preliminary Report to Congress on Pretti Killing, January 2026



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The following statement pertains to an in-custody death that occurred on
Saturday, January 24, 2026, in Minneapolis, MN.

This information is
based on a preliminary review by U.S. Customs and Border Protection
(CBP) Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR) Investigative
Operations Directorate (IOD) and may be updated and clarified as
additional details become available. It is being provided to Committee
staff concurrently with CBP senior leadership to ensure timely reporting.
CBP OPR IOD established the following information and timeline based
on a preliminary review of body worn camera footage and CBP
documentation.

On January 24, 2026, United States Border Patrol (USBP) Border Patrol
Agents (BPAs) and Customs and Border Protection Officers (CBPOs)
supporting Operation Metro Surge were conducting enforcement actions
near the intersection of Nicollet Ave. and 26th St. in Minneapolis, MN.

Several civilians were in the area yelling and blowing whistles. BPAs
and CBPOs made several verbal requests for the civilians to stay on the
sidewalks and out of the roadway.

At approximately 9:00 a.m., a CBPO was confronted by two female
civilians blowing whistles. The CBPO ordered the female civilians to
move out of the roadway, and the female civilians did not move. The
CBPO pushed them both away and one of the females ran to a male,
later identified as 37-year-old Alex Jeffrey Pretti, a US citizen. The
CBPO attempted to move the woman and Pretti out of the roadway. The
woman and Pretti did not move.

The CBPO deployed his oleoresin
capsicum (OC) spray towards both Pretti and the woman.

CBP personnel attempted to take Pretti into custody. Pretti resisted CBP
personnel’s efforts and a struggle ensued. During the struggle, a BPA
yelled, “He’s got a gun!” multiple times. Approximately five seconds later, a BPA discharged his CBP-issued Glock 19 and a CBPO also
discharged his CBP-issued Glock 47 at Pretti.

After the shooting, a BPA
advised he had possession of Pretti’s firearm. The BPA subsequently
cleared and secured Pretti’s firearm in his vehicle.
At approximately 9:02 a.m., CBP personnel cut Pretti’s clothing and
provided medical aid to him by placing chest seals on his wounds. At
approximately 9:05 a.m., Minneapolis Fire Department Emergency
Medical Services (MFD EMS) emergency medical technicians (EMTs)
arrived and assumed primary medical care for Pretti.

At approximately 9:14 a.m., MFD EMTs placed Pretti in an MFD EMS
ambulance and he was subsequently transported to Hennepin County
Medical Center (HCMC). At approximately 9:32 a.m., HCMC medical
personnel pronounced Pretti deceased.
CBP OPR IOD was advised that an autopsy would be conducted by
medical personnel from the Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s
Office. CBP OPR IOD will request the official findings upon
completion.

Homeland Security Investigations is investigating the incident and CBP
OPR IOD is reviewing it. The Department of Homeland Security Office
of Inspector General was notified.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thank you,
Director, OS/ES
Office of Congressional Affairs

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ALL of those "extra-thread" comments were in response to comments or questions in this thread.

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bullshite.

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I'm sure it will be and resolved before any of the DHS/FBI "investigations" are even completed

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Contrast that with the people DHS has shot to death.

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it's a fair and logical inference that DHS is hiding something.

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Based on prior behavior by DHS, I don't expect any kind of detailed explanation about this ICE agent.

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All shite you posted in the thread 2 weeks ago.

Got a thing for DHS/FBI don't you?

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Got a thing for DHS/FBI don't you?

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Got a thing for not being skeptical of the government. That used to be a hallmark of being a good Republican...just like supporting the 2nd Amendment: