re: ICE Agent Shot in California

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You got a thread about a drunk Guy to go multiple pages of you shitting on everyone you detest.

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Lol. This is what I was saying to Tigah. Some people make it about good guys and bad guys.

I don't detest anyone. If someone accuses me of something or says I have my facts wrong, I typically respond. If they're right, I acknowledge it. If not, I explain that.

At least with me, you have gotten to be a pretty useless poster. That just means you're a waste of my time. I don't detest you. I don't know you.

I've said many times I respect your service to our country and your superior knowledge of aviation and the military. I lost respect for you as a poster. Big deal. You don't have any respect for me. I will somehow survive.

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It all applies.

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No, it doesn't.

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Did ICE do due diligence in hiring this dude?

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This may be the only thing that could be related, IF he had any history of substance abuse in his record.

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Where the ICE agents deployed to Fresno properly supervised (he is from Texas)?

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This, and the fact that he is from Texas, 100% does NOT apply since he was off duty and not conducting any business in his official capacity as a federal agent.

Are the LT's in every ICE group supposed to babysit all their agents 24/7? This is not hard.

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Right.
Pretti spit on an fed LEO and damaged a vehicle the week before. Had that been MPD, he'd still be alive today, because they would justifiably have arrested the deranged leftist goon. The federals let him go because of a dearth of numbers and a distraction from mission at hand.
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Show me where Pretti was accused of any crime.

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This is an example of "listening" with your fingers in your ears. Here is video of Pretti days before his death. The thing speaks for itself.

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However, as I told you, he wasn't charged for those crimes. Had he been, he might still be alive.

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the women weren't accused of breaking any laws. How could Pretti have been?

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He was forcibly impeding/interfering with federal officers performing their duties. That is a crime, Hoss. Regardless of what CBS tells you.

He was also engaging the officers while carrying.


Here come the


'it is a right to carry'

Sure, but then don't engage le.

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He was forcibly impeding/interfering with federal officers performing their duties. That is a crime, Hoss. Regardless of what CBS tells you.

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I don't rely on CBS for analysis. I showed you the report from CPB.

I have said repeatedly that Pretti should have been arrested previously when he kicked the taillight and spat at federal officers. Terrible police work not to have arrested him that day. As you pointed out, these Feds weren't trained or equipped to perform police duties.

On the day he was shot to death by team panic, he was not interfering with any federal function. According to CPB, it was the women who were blowing whistles in close proximity to the agents. Yet, CBP didn't claim that even the women were interfering.

Anyhow, whether or not Pretti was committing a crime is irrelevant. The only justification for lethal force is threat of serious bodily harm or death. Any well trained officer would have seen that Pretti---with several agents beating on him---didn't pose such a threat.

Pretti was exercising his 2nd Amendment rights, just as he had in his prior scuffle with the Feds. At no time in either instance did he "brandish" or reach for his gun. The best that can be said is that team panic overreacted when one of them yelled "gun" and then shot Pretti AFTER Pretti’s gun was removed.

Understandable mistake in a stressful situation? Of course. Good police work? Of course not.

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Pretti was exercising his 2nd Amendment rights

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lol honk honk

You’re ruining your I’m not a Democrat claim

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Pretti was killed because he had been legally carrying a gun...right?

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Absolutely not and stop pretending other wise.

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Pretti was killed because he had exercised his 2nd Amendment rights.

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That may be the dumbest thing you've posted in this thread.

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Absolutely not and stop pretending other wise.

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Here's all the CPB report linked earlier said about why Pretti was shot. Unless you claim that it's lawful to shoot someone for "resisting being taken into custody" (no mention of an arrest for a specific crime), it was ONLY about the gun:

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CBP personnel attempted to take Pretti into custody. Pretti resisted CBP
personnel’s efforts and a struggle ensued. During the struggle, a BPA
yelled, “He’s got a gun!” multiple times. Approximately five secondslater, a BPA discharged his CBP-issued Glock 19 and a CBPO also
discharged his CBP-issued Glock 47 at Pretti. After the shooting, a BPA
advised he had possession of Pretti’s firearm.

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