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re: ICE 3rd largest defense budget in world after BBB passage

Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:50 pm to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71833 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:50 pm to
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That is insanely stupid

I think part of it has the potential to be dumb depending on how it is handled. They're setting aside somewhere around $45 billion+ for the wall and other border improvements. Let's not get too carried away with ourselves and start seriously believing that this tiger has changed its stripes. That portion of the immigration funding will, no doubt, be ripe for waste and grift. They better have some damn good oversight in place and not go of half-cocked.

Factored into that equation is the success this administration has had with shutting down the border and stopping the flow of illegal crossings without new laws or billions of dollars more funding. They've shown what CAN be done with simple effort and a desire to uphold the laws we have. There will be no excuses if they somehow frick this up.

The most important aspect, which addresses the real bottleneck in our immigration system, is the new funding of ~1.25 billion for the immigration courts. We have too few judges and EVERYTHING about the process takes way too long. Again, they better damn well have an actual plan that efficiently injects that money into the system. In a few years we should hear no more about massive delays or it taking years for people to have court dates to resolve issues.

Everything is sunshine and rainbows when you're throwing absurd (to normal people) numbers up on the screen. At the end of the day, these are still the same people that have repeatedly shown how truly incompetent they can be.
This post was edited on 7/3/25 at 6:52 pm
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
14948 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:50 pm to
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I do believe in both, but the need to empower a large army is a bit ridiculous. As with everything in this country, we lack moderation.


Better to be prepared.

Having and not needing is always preferable to needing and then having to get congress on board to increase funding.
Posted by tigerfootball10
Member since Sep 2005
9900 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:52 pm to
Is the total more than the pallets of cash Obama gave Iran?
Posted by sledgehammer
SWLA
Member since Oct 2020
6783 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:56 pm to
This is insane in a good way. They better get to work in cities like LA, Chicago, and New York and absolutely go scorched earth with a fire-breathing chainsaw. I’m going to be disappointed if arrests and raids don’t amp up.
Posted by RelicBatches86
Florida
Member since Nov 2024
1056 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:56 pm to
the bill caps the judge count at 800 by 2028.

There are currently 700 judges. This is no where close to what the US needs.


Now we need to send billions to Palantir mass surveillance illegals. Because it will only be used for illegals!



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This post was edited on 7/3/25 at 6:57 pm
Posted by Nerd
Member since Dec 2019
1016 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:59 pm to
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When you have to deport 30 million people you need an army - I can’t wait to see the Mexican groceries disappear from these small towns here in TN - hopefully we can get our culture back before the invasion


LMAOOOOO

What culture was that? Meth or oxy?
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14429 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 7:00 pm to
Hey illegals...

Posted by oklahogjr
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Member since Jan 2010
40237 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 7:02 pm to
It's an insane waste of funding to scale up unnecessarily like that. Trump's prove. He can stop immigration with the existing laws and staff. Why does it need to scale up so tremendously?
Posted by Harald Ekernson
Louisiana
Member since May 2025
384 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 7:03 pm to
Were suppressors taken off the NFA or was the NFA repealed or bATF defunded?
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 7:03 pm to
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Taxing Authority


bitch you are crying like a pussy all over this board. I know you would rather all the money going to illegals, Trans, Welfare, Green Energy, etc....

moron
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 7:05 pm to
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oklahogjr


another crying liberal that would prefer the money go to trannies and illegals (to remain in the country and vote)....

Keep crying, I love the tears, bitch
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5634 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 7:06 pm to
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It's an insane waste of funding to scale up unnecessarily like that. Trump's prove. He can stop immigration with the existing laws and staff. Why does it need to scale up so tremendously?


Well sure he can stop it. He can stop it easier with a fricken wall. The wall being completed will enable us to reduce border agents by 2/3. Do you know how much that will save? Here is what is expensive, the removal of all that are already here. You know this but avoid it like the plague.
This post was edited on 7/3/25 at 7:11 pm
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14429 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 7:14 pm to
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Why does it need to scale up so tremendously?

Because Democrat frickfaces opened the floodgates and let MILLIONS of illegals in. You left us with a lot to un-frick.
This post was edited on 7/3/25 at 7:15 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71833 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 7:18 pm to
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the bill caps the judge count at 800 by 2028.

There are currently 700 judges. This is no where close to what the US needs.

For frick's sake......

Well, there goes any hope for real immigration court reform. An opportunity blown.
Posted by SlayTime
Member since Jan 2025
3738 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 7:21 pm to
Best part of the whole fricking bill.


Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6306 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 7:22 pm to
Do we really believe they will generate 170B of value?
Posted by RelicBatches86
Florida
Member since Nov 2024
1056 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 7:26 pm to
ICE reduced South border crossings by 95% within 6 months of a new adminstration without passing major laws. Are those agents already getting re-assigned?

ICE did this with a $8 billion budget. What's the 3x increase for?
This post was edited on 7/3/25 at 7:27 pm
Posted by El Segundo Guy
1-866-DHS-2-ICE
Member since Aug 2014
11413 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 7:29 pm to
Are you even serious?

Stopping border crossings is one thing, but deporting millions of illegals takes a huge workforce. And we have at least 10 million that need to be deported asap.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65406 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 7:30 pm to
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That is insanely stupid


Insanely stupid is leaving wide open borders and letting drugs and criminals pour in.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65406 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 7:33 pm to
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He can stop immigration with the existing laws and staff. Why does it need to scale up so tremendously?


You do realize that all of the operations they've been running the last few months are blowing the existing ICE budget out of the water. To maintain this level, they have to significantly raise the budget.
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