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re: I understand the reasons Vivek is defending H-1B Visas

Posted on 12/27/24 at 9:22 am to
Posted by RidiculousHype
The Hatch
Member since Sep 2007
10744 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 9:22 am to
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he insulted American workers and American culture

Since when is constructive criticism insulting?

Do you think American culture in 2024 is perfect?

Of course not. But saying it is insulting?

I'm honestly trying to understand.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
25255 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:26 am to
Five for Fighting weighs in with an uncomfortable truth.

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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296201 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:27 am to
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Since when is constructive criticism insulting?


Viveks position is not an uncommon one. its harder to find good workers than ever before.

Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
194567 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:32 am to
Whenever y'all ranted and raved about him I never understood it I still don't understand it i'm glad he exposed himself before he got too close and messed up more but I do not trust that guy
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52079 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:39 am to
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I didn't care for the way he insulted American workers and American culture.

It was exactly accurate. It’s not all of America, nor did Vivek imply that, but it is much of America.
Posted by Fububutsy
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Jan 2007
4077 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:41 am to
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SFP disagrees with you. He thinks Trump's administration has been destroyed


That’s because he is a retarded fig.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17493 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:41 am to
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Five for Fighting weighs in with an uncomfortable truth.


Heres another uncomfortable truth, China cant feed themselves.

Good math scores and nice airplane though.

This post was edited on 12/27/24 at 10:43 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52079 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:44 am to
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maybe we have enough in the pipeline called college's here in America, that we don't need to hire brown people from a shithole country?

We don’t have enough. We just don’t, and no amount of you crying about it is going to change that fact. I lived it; you didn’t. My company hired about 15% of its engineers on H1Bs, and we still could not fill the positions we needed. And we paid our H1Bs just as much as their American peers (which is what the law requires).
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78073 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:45 am to
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I will admit I bought into Vivek but for now I am off that train
Kinda happens often to yall doesn't it? Sessions, "Mad Dog" Mattis....
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
25255 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:47 am to
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Heres another uncomfortable truth, China cant feed themselves.


A) And you’re basing this on…?

B) What does that have to do with any of this?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78073 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:49 am to
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American school kids currently rank 26 in math and trending downward. China ranks number 1
Well, the top 25% are what's needed, not the ones in the bottom 20% forced to go to school by law. Do you think all of China's children are included in that number or is it cherry-picked?
Posted by oklahogjr
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Member since Jan 2010
40237 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:49 am to
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way he insulted American workers and American culture.

Which American culture? California culture? New York culture? Mid western culture southern culture?

Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
1943 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:49 am to
He is a foreigner. I will never understand the support for him or Musk. Use them but never trust them.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71407 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:55 am to
Vivek sucks arse and is a grifting con artist who speaks well. He ran for president just to kiss Trumps arse and position himself for power and influence in the event Trump won.

Dude is a fraud.
Posted by swamptiger99
Member since Aug 2024
373 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:58 am to
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We don’t have enough.


So let me get this straight. You deny your fellow American's voice, because you refuse to open your eyes and unplug your ears? I'm not the only graduate that is telling you this.

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I lived it; you didn’t.


Lol

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My company hired about 15% of its engineers on H1Bs, and we still could not fill the positions we needed.


So you mean to tell me that out of all of the resumes you received for applications, you COULDN"T find one single American to fill the role, even if they didn't match ALL of the requirements. So you went to a shithole country, and took a chance on a brown person who has no idea about America as a whole. You are the reason we are in this predicament right now.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
24516 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 11:01 am to
Vivek is defending H1B because it's a legit answer to illegal immigration.

I don't know what to tell all of Ronnites who were ready to start the bitch-and-moan fest but it's gonna be a long hard 4 years for you poor bastards. You'll all get your day in the sun for a few minutes again though when Ron runs, then loses to JD.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296201 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 11:02 am to
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I don't know what to tell all of Ronnites who were ready to start the bitch-and-moan fest
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52079 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:29 pm to
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So you mean to tell me that out of all of the resumes you received for applications, you COULDN"T find one single American to fill the role, even if they didn't match ALL of the requirements. So you went to a shithole country, and took a chance on a brown person who has no idea about America as a whole. You are the reason we are in this predicament right now

No, that’s not how it happened. We rarely hired someone from overseas and brought them to the US on an H1B. We hired people who were already here (often being exploited and illegally underpaid). We would switch sponsorship of the H1B.

Every manager in an energy sector engineering company will tell you the same exact story I am telling you. We fought like dogs, over a scrap of meat, for capable engineers OF ANY NATIONALITY. And we weren’t picky about “meeting all of the requirements”; we heavily emphasized enthusiasm and personality, often repurposing engineers from other industries.

I am still affiliated with the company enough to know that little has changed. It’s a sellers’ market. We are not picking and choosing among qualified employees; we are begging and seducing them. And jobs are going unfilled.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39847 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:53 pm to
Vivek and Musk should GTFO.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10328 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 3:05 pm to
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If he Vivek understood America, he would have understood everything wrong with his statement but he doesn't because he's a 1st generation American raised on and still clinging to his Indian culture.


I was echoing Vivek's sentiment when I was a kid in the 90s. Other kids' heroes were usually athletes. Mine was people like bill gates, intelligent people who made it rich in science and technology. You'll have to forgive me for i was a youngun and unaware of the NWO and gates' plans.

Even at that young age, I knew Vivek's opinion was not wrong. Our pop culture has never valued intelligence over looks or physical feats. No one knew who the kids were that went to academic competitions and brought home trophies. But we had a pep rally every week so we could recognize the football players who never cracked .500.

This may upset people, but it's the truth and should be easy to see. However, there are still plenty of intelligent kids here, so we do not need foreigners. We just need to stop letting our schools act as indoctrination centers and get back to actual education.

Bringing in foreigners while you allow the DOE to destroy our own children's education is not America First. We need a change in culture, and that starts with getting leftists out of the schools. Pop culture will always be shallow, but we can create the proper culture within our educational institutions.
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