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I think the Senate should allow evidence and witness
Posted on 1/23/20 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 1/23/20 at 3:47 pm
I think the politically smart thing is for the GOP to tell the Dems, sure, call all the witnesses you want, and get all the new evidence you want.
They won't find anything damaging, and they will have to drag this foolishness out all spring looking for it.
It will pull Dem candidates off the campaign trail. Every day, reports will come out how they are still looking for evidence. It will underscore that the house impeached him with no evidence at all. This will make the Dems look even stupider than they already do.
The Dems are quite willing to hang themselves, why won't the GOP let them do it?
They won't find anything damaging, and they will have to drag this foolishness out all spring looking for it.
It will pull Dem candidates off the campaign trail. Every day, reports will come out how they are still looking for evidence. It will underscore that the house impeached him with no evidence at all. This will make the Dems look even stupider than they already do.
The Dems are quite willing to hang themselves, why won't the GOP let them do it?
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 3:48 pm to LSUFanHouston
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It will pull Dem candidates off the campaign trail.
It also takes Republican Senators off the campaign trail in swing states
Posted on 1/23/20 at 3:56 pm to LSUFanHouston
quote:Stop! You're not very good at it.
I think
quote:But they will twist and splice and reframe and reword until things appear bad and that's all they need to run with, appearance. DNC101.
They won't find anything damaging
Posted on 1/23/20 at 3:57 pm to LSUFanHouston
It's not up to the jury, the Senate, to provide witnesses. The DA, the House, was responsible for that. They didn't produce. Tough shite for them.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 3:59 pm to MrLSU
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It also takes Republican Senators off the campaign trail in swing states
Do we have that many of them in this cycle?
Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:01 pm to Homesick Tiger
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It's not up to the jury, the Senate, to provide witnesses. The DA, the House, was responsible for that. They didn't produce. Tough shite for them.
All of the comparisons to a "real" trial really don't make sense, because this is a political thing, not a legal thing.
But to play along, you can call witness at a trial, that you didn't call at a grand jury hearing.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:01 pm to Sidicous
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But they will twist and splice and reframe and reword until things appear bad and that's all they need to run with, appearance. DNC101.
Which causes them to further hang themselves.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:02 pm to LSUFanHouston
I tend to agree but after hearing the constitutional arguments against it I’m not so sure. Vague BS like “abuse of power” and “obstruction of Congress” shouldn’t even be entertained as impeachable offenses.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:04 pm to LSUFanHouston
Dude, if the House wanted these witnesses they could have called them. They didn't want to follow the process.
End this sham as soon as possible.
End this sham as soon as possible.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:05 pm to DallasTiger11
They kind of didn’t do it in the Clinton trial. Even most of the Republican controlled Senate didn’t want Monica to describe all the dick sucking and cigar penetration. So kind of Precedent
Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:05 pm to Tiger985
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Dude, if the House wanted these witnesses they could have called them. They didn't want to follow the process.
if they would have been called in the house, would they then be re-called in the senate? or the testimony entered into the senate hearings?
Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:07 pm to LSUFanHouston
No, no, no, and no. This needs to end with a motion to dismiss. Period, end of story.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:08 pm to OchoDedos
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No, no, no, and no. This needs to end with a motion to dismiss. Period, end of story.
I'm fine with that too... but every day, this spectacle causes the Dems to lose support.
I mean, they lost the gaptooth wanna-be governor from Georgia. If you lost her, what more do you have left?
Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:09 pm to LSUFanHouston
Bolton is why.
Fox is running propaganda.
Everyone else is running trial live.
Beans in ears defense.
Fox is running propaganda.
Everyone else is running trial live.
Beans in ears defense.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:09 pm to LSUFanHouston
The senate should straight up dismiss this bullshite.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:10 pm to LSUFanHouston
The smart thing is call it what it is, a progfilth partisan sham, and dismiss it. Let them cry and lie . They’re going to do that anyway.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:11 pm to nitwit
To be convicted of a crime, an actual statute/law has to be violated. The House has presented no such statute/law. As soon as the "presentation of evidence" portion of this is over, that will be the basis upon which "the impeachment" will be summarily dismissed.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:11 pm to CelticDog
Couldn't the Repubs simply choose to dismiss all charges Friday after the Dem's final 8 hours of evidence?
Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:23 pm to LSUFanHouston
This "trial" is not about getting or convicting Trump. It is about the Senate. They want the Senate to get after Trump again if and when he wins and the Dems have quietly been recruiting quite aggressively. They hope to peel off 3-4 .
Georgia will be ground zero there are two Senate seats up.
Arizona is likely lost McSally against the astronaut Mark Kelly
Texas is interesting because the Democrat organizing there in the last 5 years has been profound. They have flipped the judiciary there . They will go hard at Cornyn.
Maine is up for grabs as well
Colorado is lost
Republicans will take back Alabama
Republicans have been sucking on recruiting and organizing . Congress is where Republicans are getting outorganized. Message alone is not going to het in done going forward.....the messenger is just as important
Georgia will be ground zero there are two Senate seats up.
Arizona is likely lost McSally against the astronaut Mark Kelly
Texas is interesting because the Democrat organizing there in the last 5 years has been profound. They have flipped the judiciary there . They will go hard at Cornyn.
Maine is up for grabs as well
Colorado is lost
Republicans will take back Alabama
Republicans have been sucking on recruiting and organizing . Congress is where Republicans are getting outorganized. Message alone is not going to het in done going forward.....the messenger is just as important
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