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re: I think the dems smell blood in the water.

Posted on 9/1/22 at 1:34 pm to
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 9/1/22 at 1:34 pm to
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Trump continues to say that he declassified them.

Nothing Trump says out loud or on social media matters in this context.

He has yet to make that representation to the court, which is telling. If he thought he declassified them, his court filings would reflect that belief.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/1/22 at 1:37 pm to
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He has yet to make that representation to the court, which is telling.


Explain to us why you think that's "telling."
Posted by Original Corn Pop
The public pool
Member since Nov 2020
547 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 1:38 pm to
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There is even people on right wing media that say they think Trump will be indicted.


FWIW I absolutely think he will be indicted. It will be a pure unadulterated horseshite indictment but its going to happen.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35686 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 1:40 pm to
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Explain to us why you think that's "telling."

Because if they believed that the documents in question were declassified, it would be mentioned in this case—be it the current special master issue or those concerning the previously sealed warrant, etc.

There would be no reason not to assert it clearly and prominently in every filing. Why aren’t they (the lawyers) waving it in the DOJ’s face at every turn? Remember that nothing anyone says on social media or to reporters matters whatsoever.

That they have not done so tells me, at the very least, that Trump’s team considers the issue of declassification unsettled (at best) or unfavorable (at worst).
This post was edited on 9/1/22 at 1:41 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109618 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 1:41 pm to
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That they have not done so tells me, at the very least, that Trump’s team considers the issue of declassification unsettled (at best) or unfavorable (at worst.



Why'd you leave out immaterial?
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25059 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 1:42 pm to
The crooked political hacks of the FBI and DOJ can probably bet a dem grand jury to indict Trump on any BS they cook up.

It won't stop him from running and this time he will rain holy hell down upon the swampers, crooked FBI and DOJ hacks.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46042 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 1:42 pm to
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Sure they have thought they had Trump before, but this time is different.


Its exactly the same. In fact, its shockingly similar.

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There is even people on right wing media that say they think Trump will be indicted.


That happens every single time, bro.

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Biden sounds like he's ready to end the maga movement.


Biden sounds like hes ready for a diaper change.



The pivot to obstruction should tell you EVERYTHING you need to know about this "investigation". They have nothing, so they will baselessly accuse him of "smuggling" out the alleged evidence merely because it wasnt there. Its obvious.

Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35686 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 1:42 pm to
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Why'd you leave out immaterial?

What do you mean?

It’s technically immaterial vis a vis the special master issue, sure.

But there is no reason to leave it out of their factual summaries that are in every filing, or why they wouldn’t have brought it up when they wanted to see the unredacted affidavit.

If Trump’s legal team has a reasonable belief (or even better, proof) that the documents in question were declassified prior to Trump leaving office, and they have not presented that to the court, Trump should fire them all and sue them for malpractice.
This post was edited on 9/1/22 at 1:44 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109618 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 1:44 pm to
You're not thinking hard enough. That's not surprising based on what I've seen in your posts.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35686 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 1:45 pm to
Then just lay out what the long game is. You clearly have your own thoughts, just type them.

Tell me what I’m missing.
This post was edited on 9/1/22 at 1:46 pm
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25059 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 1:45 pm to
That's not blood in the water, it's sewer shite from the swamp.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
10836 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 1:47 pm to
Didn’t Trump say he wants the boxes of documents returned?

It sounds to me like the new argument Trump is making is that they are his property and not the property of the US Govt.
This post was edited on 9/1/22 at 1:48 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109618 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 1:49 pm to
The issue of whether anyone else might think a document is classified or not is immaterial as to whether a president can possess such a document (or in this case a former president with such a document created during the term of his administration).
This post was edited on 9/1/22 at 1:51 pm
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87483 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 2:14 pm to
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Biden sounds like he's ready to end the maga movement.


Biden can’t end a bowel movement.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25059 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 2:20 pm to
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The issue of whether anyone else might think a document is classified or not is immaterial as to whether a president can possess such a document (or in this case a former president with such a document created during the term of his administration).


Presidential libraries are full of formerly classified documents.
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
5905 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 2:29 pm to
You have no idea why they are not making that claim at this point. The fact that they haven't isn't proof that they won't or can't.
Posted by UFMatt
Proud again to be an American
Member since Oct 2010
12804 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 2:36 pm to
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Biden sounds like he's ready to end the maga movement.


He only makes us stronger.
Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
Member since Jan 2016
9978 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 2:40 pm to
If they have something, they're certainly taking their time about impeaching him.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
7947 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 2:43 pm to
You democrats really do believe your own shite you shovel don’t you? It’s almost 2023 and the democrats can’t get shite done. The only thing they want to do STILL is go after Trump. It doesn’t take a genius to know why. It’s fear plain and simple. They are terrified to have to run against him because they have no one to put against him. Biden belongs in a nursing home and Kamala shouldn’t even be an assistant manager at McDonalds. How about try to do something to benefit the country? No? It’s easier to just tell it’s all Trump’s fault isn’t it? It will be 2046 and Trump will have been dead for years but still it will all be Trump’s fault to the liberals.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4628 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 2:46 pm to
The documents in question are alleged to be the Crossfire Hurricane investigation documents. Seeing as I've heard several pundits mention that it is indeed these documents, that leads me to believe someone has asked someone with direct knowledge on Trump's side and gotten confirmation.

Trump wrote the Memorandum that declassified it and removed any redactions, not protected by FISA, in that memo on January 19, 2021 while he was still POTUS. He had 100% verified legal authority, did it, and it happened.

But since these declassified documents are now part of an investigation, guess what? They are now protected. Now who does that convivence the most?

Answer: The people who's names were redacted as being involved in an illegal made up investigation against a political rival and future President.
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