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re: I think shite is about to hit the fan
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:56 pm to Tuscaloosa
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:56 pm to Tuscaloosa
I agree that nothing will come out of this. I used digital signature to file ny taxes. I guarantee though that there is probably at least one document that was signed without Biden's knowledge or authorization. That is what I would focus on. Bondi ain't worth shite though.
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Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:58 pm to LSUFreek
I don’t think autopen signatures are invalid per se. However, a presidential pardon is a very specific act that affects a very specific individual. Furthermore, only the President can issue the pardon as he is the only person granted that power in the constitution. Some unknown individual or cabal of individuals can’t simply decide to issue pardons on his behalf due to his declining mental condition. Auto penning his signature does not make his signature valid if he is unaware that presidential pardons are being issued on his behalf… the Trump signature on a stimulus check is irrelevant because He was aware the checks were being issued and that they contained his signature
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:59 pm to FLTech
Cant do anything about the past but we can definitely change rules on it for the future.
Pardons are a big deal. EOs are a big deal. POTUS should have to sign it with R and D witnesses. That would fix everything.
Pardons are a big deal. EOs are a big deal. POTUS should have to sign it with R and D witnesses. That would fix everything.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:04 pm to FLTech
This is so dumb.
Anyone with an issue with this has obviously never worked in a professional organization.
Autopen is how businesses run, especially something like the presidency.
Anyone with an issue with this has obviously never worked in a professional organization.
Autopen is how businesses run, especially something like the presidency.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:07 pm to RFK
And you would be OK with that based on observed behavior of 46?
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:11 pm to AURulz1
Who even knows if Biden is still alive? Guy fell off the face of the earth. I fully expect in the next year or so it starts leaking he is in hospice or something.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:29 pm to RFK
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Anyone with an issue with this has obviously never worked in a professional organization.
You’re comparing apples and oranges. You can delegate autopen responsibilities within the business world because you are acting on behalf of the company as an official representative. The president does not have the authority to delegate the power of the pardon to anyone to act on his behalf. The argument is not whether or not an autopen signature is valid. The question is who was issuing the pardons and was the autopen used as an end run around a president in the midst of severe mental decline.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:38 pm to rickyb223
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Because it shows that the most stable democracy in the world is actually just an oligarchy. If you can’t see how that would affect global perceptions then I don’t know what to tell you.
Opposed to what?
Name one country in the world that is more democratic than America.
Mexico literally has a jew plant as a President.
WTF did Canada just do? Another globalist plant.
Do you think English leadership actually reflects the average English person’s ideals and values?
Germany, France, Venezuela, Israel, Ukraine.
Democracy does not exist in the world. America is the closet thing to it and it just showed why.
I, along with any other true American, couldnt give two fricks about global perception. Who the frick is going to question us about OUR democracy.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:39 pm to FLTech
Releasing the Kraken!!!
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:41 pm to FLTech
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Follow the pen
Said someone…
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:43 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
quote:
You’re comparing apples and oranges. You can delegate autopen responsibilities within the business world because you are acting on behalf of the company as an official representative. The president does not have the authority to delegate the power of the pardon to anyone to act on his behalf. The argument is not whether or not an autopen signature is valid. The question is who was issuing the pardons and was the autopen used as an end run around a president in the midst of severe mental decline.
Finally! I had to read this entire thread before anyone posted what the hell this is all about.
To reiterate. It is not about the use of autopen. It is about the use of autopen by someone besides Biden.
A example would be if autopen was used with a time stamp that coincided while Biden was in surgery. Obviously someone undergoing surgery can't use autopen. So Obviously someone besides Biden used the autopen do do something only the president has the ability to do.
So the issue here is proving that Biden isn't the one that used the autopen. If Biden didn't, then the pardons are not valid.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:47 pm to RFK
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Anyone with an issue with this has obviously never worked in a professional organization. Autopen is how businesses run, especially something like the presidency.
Just so we’re clear, you’re saying you’re good with the President’s signature being forged on pardons while he’s in another state playing golf?
This post was edited on 3/11/25 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:48 pm to ksayetiger
quote:I want all the little fishes to fry as a deterrent for future assiastances.
I want the people behind it to rot
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:50 pm to FLTech
I think all that proves is Biden is lazy or has palsy
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:58 pm to FLTech
Unfortunately, all they've got to do is get him to say he authorized it. It's not the act of signing, but the intent.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 11:17 pm to Neutral Underground
quote:I have an authentic one, signed by the Great Bambino himself in Shreveport during the Yankees spring training where they took the train to St.Louis, Hot Springs and stopped in Shreveport on the way to Galveston to play against the local team in an exhibition. My grandfather was a poor kid who didn't have a ticket, but shagged down a home run ball outside the ballfield. He waited outside the dressing room and got his autograph right in the sweetspot. He left it to me when he passed away in 1969. The game in Shreveport was in 1919, which also was the last year the B.B."Van" Johnson was baseball commissioner. His name is printed on the red and blue stitched ball. It's 106 years old and in a safety deposit box in the bank.
want a autopen signed Babe Ruth baseball. Oh, wait. Already have one. Ain't worth shite.
I showed it to Taylor Moore, the GM of the Shreveport Captains, and he offered me $20 grand on the spot. That was back in 1994. I need to send it in to be certified. I have no idea to its true value.
This post was edited on 3/11/25 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:05 am to HubbaBubba
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Babe Ruth signed ball.
That's awesome. I always wanted one since watching The Sandlot. That's some pretty cool memorabilia.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:19 am to rickyb223
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:42 am to FLTech
Probably not, but keep it out there. The Dems have gotten away on a lot of stuff because republicans have given up in the past.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:51 am to FLTech
How many times are we going to see this? Wake me up when something is actually done.
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