re: I see some conservative are having issues accepting environment issues

Taking care of the planet is important. taxing people because of bad made up data is criminal.

No one wants to see an oil spill, but this is not why someone got hit by a hurricane.

You have idiots that watch California burn every year in an area that has burned for thousands of years, but are dead sent against clearing the underbrush of the forest or culling trees. Instead they will blame made up climate change. The only difference between today and 30 years ago is a lot more people live here now and their stuff is expensive, not a skin built hut of a nomad.

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Anyone with a brain would agree that we need to make changes to how we are polluting and sustainable processes

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Absolutely. In my experience, even the rightest of right wing politicos hate litter.

The mountains of plastic trash that the United States dumps here, in the waterways and that the US exports is criminal.

Where the right wing falls off is on the issue of doing something, anything about it. Even if you draw the line at doing things to try to slow global warming, that should not prevent us from doing something about this massive pileup of plastic waste that we are generating at breakneck pace.

That shite is literally in your blood now.

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The biggest problem I have with environmentalists is they will continue to support China and India when they are the worst poluters in the world. They want to punish Americans with taxes and regulations but will not support anything done to foreign countries. Until they take a hard line with China I'll never support any policies.

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My biggest problem with this take is that it sets the benchmark at the most polluted places in the world, suggesting that we should do nothing because the trash pile people in India and China don't care.

No. We should be responsible enough to live in as clean an environment as we can. That clean environment is for us. This is our home we are talking about.

Let India and China poison themselves. We should also shame them for their trash.

That means more money for them all they are is thieves dressed nice

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So much of what is happening with climate change/global warming is cyclical patterns of nature and nothing more.

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This x 1000000000.

It is all a money grab, and guess who is getting rich? I'll tell you who.....the people that made at most $190K a year for the last 30-40 years now have multiple, multi-million dollar mansions spread out around the country.....on that salary. LOL

The Earth goes through cooling spells, and it goes through heating spells. The dems are just capitalizing $$$$$$ on pushing the agenda for their kickbacks.

The whole global warming theory is based on air pollution that affects the whole world yet liberals refuse to raise a hand to China. Why should we suffer while China makes billions of dollars off of us?

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Where the right wing falls off is on the issue of doing something, anything about it. Even if you draw the line at doing things to try to slow global warming, that should not prevent us from doing something about this massive pileup of plastic waste that we are generating at breakneck pace.

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Oh frick off. Your idiot klan protests oil in jackets made of oil, kayaks made of oil, rope made with oil, water bottles made with oil, shoes made with oil…

frick right off.

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Climate change is real,

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No it isn't. It is not real to the degree that we are now going to get hotter and hotter until we are extinct, like they project. We are just in a warming phase in the universe right now. Long after most of us here are gone, we will be in a cooling phase. The 60s, 70s, and 80s, were cooler, and even down in the south we got more snow. But, the Earth wasn't created then, and it has gone from one extreme to the other over the millions of years. We aren't changing it.

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Global warming cannot be changed through heavy spending and regulation

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You don't need to run to fossil fuels as the central arguement when there are so many other public health issues which do impact the health of our people and budget.

Examples:
-plastics in the food supply/water (why is it acceptable to just take it for granted that microplastics spike estrogen and invade the testicles of toddlers because of cheap packaging and poor municipal filtration)

-chemical runoff due to pharmaceuticals (why accept that birth control pills are inherently safe and good when we know they taint the water supply and environment...what about SSRIs?)

-preservatives and seed oils (should we really be subsidizing entire parts of the ag economy to provide cheap but unhealthy components of our diet? Does our rise in chronic disease have anything to do with our diet changes that have resulted from sham science like the USDA food pyramid? Would gov money be better spent on incentives that don't both cause our ailments and then address our symptoms in the Medicare/medicaid population?)

-should we be ok with large portions of "green tech" that are inherently "dirty" (see open air artisnal mining for battery elements in africa)?

-why the revolving door of regulator/industry in areas such as food and medicine? Do we really need to have the gov subsidize (and by default mandate at the school/workforce level) vaccination against ailments (hep b) from conscious, high risk activities? Is the same logic applied the basis for giving everyone Prep for hiv? I'm not looking at this from a crunchy vaccine skeptic angle, but can't help but notice massive government expenditures for vaccines that we didn't deam "essential" in the 70s and 80s. How many of the vaccines on the current schedule ended scourges like polio? How are we doing as a society with chronic health conditions since we sank so much money into vaccines instead of other areas (don't tax as much and/or incentives for quality diets).

-herbicides, pesticides, and antibiotics in food production (are we chasing profit and efficiency at the expense of health? Do we need to except glyphosate as a "cost of doing business" when you try to feed your kids? If we have an obesity problem amongst our youngest and poorest, are the current rules and markets really optimized to support overall health and to ensure that we don't prioritize cheap food at the cost of more expensive medical care?)

My stance on environment is that we shouldn’t have any more regulations until countries like China and India are up to our current standards. Otherwise anything further we do only hurts our own economy and makes US products less price competitive while having little effect on the environment as long as China spews pollution with no regard at all for its impact