I remember when all the liberals were obsessive about privacy and free speech

then they sold out to china

All they care is ORANGE MAN BAD. That’s it.

I’ve seen justification for this shite all weekend. These people are deranged.

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Cancel culture needs to be fought back against by a unified front.

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From your side, unity = submission.

It's funny - when I was younger and the culture war was ACLU vs. Christian Coalition, part of me knew all along that the "left" was right on some of it. Maybe not from a Christianity perspective, but from a constitutional/American interest standard.

I mean, I was a Christian and conservative and I liked a lot of the ideas and ultimate goals of the religious right, but I knew we were on the wrong side of some issues.

Being as self-aware as I can, I don't feel like that now. From a Christian and moral imperative perspective, the only "back of my mind" things anymore that I think have true legitimacy on the left are 1) Some healthcare battles 2) some immigration battles and 3) some gun debate (but this is more cultural than political).

In my heart of hearts I am convinced they are entirely wrong on issues of race, gender, transgenderism, redistribution, etc. And that's because their positions on these things are premised on a rejection of truths. They require you (seriously) to unlearn and suspend your own lived experiences and scientific data in order to adopt their positions.

I think true liberals are still supporters of free speech. Many recognize the fascism going on in the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party’s new motto is the ends justifies the means.

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just like how they turned a few morons milling around congressional offices and taking selfies into 911 Part 2.

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I've made the point for years (or tried to) that the layers of lefty propaganda are far superior to our chunk of right-leaning influence in the media.

Meaning the WSJ and FNC are fine and have a big chunk of the market (assuming for the moment they represent our views). But they can be isolated and called extreme. Whereas some crackpot analyst on CNN can call the cap takeover worse than 9/11, and then be backed up by a NYT ed board piece, which can then be bolstered by WaPo, which will then be echoed by Brookings, and so on and so forth.

They've already changed the public's perception of Parler, which is a true free speech marketplace that is deeply red but not at all Gab or 4chan or the like. Yet go to Wiki, and you'll get poorly sourced shite about how it's a bastion of fringe right and anti-semitic content.

They've spent decades building the infrastructure for this. This is how they win. Not by "turning off your chip" but by saying "hey think like we do or no more Netflix buddy!"

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What do y’all want to happen? Government forces Twitter to unban Trump?

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I am not a supported of unchecked monopoly, which is what we have in the tech industry right now. If they are of one specific ideological bent (which they are) and profit off that ideological bent when it holds governmental power (which they do) then it stops being a business issue and does indeed become something more. These tech companies enjoy government -created legal protections, yet weaponize against smaller companies to drive them out of existence. If that's not corrected, freedom of speech is no longer a matter of rights, it's a matter of power...and that's the sort of thing we fought Britain to escape.

I actually never remember a time when the American Left was on the side of “free speech.” Im a GenXer.

In my recollection, the American Left is the part of the political spectrum that invented political correctness which was the top of the slippery slope we are sliding down.

Recent points on the downward curve - all supported by leftists, and stemming from the idea of “correct” opinions and language are:

- “net neutrality” providing unlimited power to internet content providers, over internet service providers;

- Amazon, and all communications networks selling its servers and info to the gvt for our “protection”;

- MeToo movement denying counsel and due process to Harvey Weinstein and Brett Kavanaugh bc they don’t deserve it;

- The cancellation and deplatforming of Alex Jones bc he is spreading “disinformation” as defined by who the hell knows;

- The political prosecutions of Roger Stone, Paul Manafort and Michael Flynn. Show me the man, and I will show you the crime.

- The IRS denials and slow walking of 501(c) status to conservative and Tea Party Groups, prohibiting them from organizing and fundraising during the 2012 presidential campaign, after its demonstration of grass roots effectiveness in the 2010 mideterms;

- Section 230 providing unequal protection from liability to social media platforms, thereby providing unequal First Amendment protection to some publishers but not others.

All of this results from an unholy alliance btwn the Government and channels of communication and association.

This is fricking terrifying. And it’s the essence of leftist ideology. Collectivist hive mind. Risky shift and group think.

There is NOTHING liberal about it. These leftists have bastardized that term. And I hate them for it.

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It’s still not a free speech issue at its core though.

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No. At it’s core it’s a free speech issue.

There are certain actions which are so abhorrent to public policy they are void ab initio.

These contracts and alliances and business decisions are void on public policy grounds.

Further - the gvt is denying equal protection of the law to millions of People, while favoring the publishing decisions of social media people. By the action and decisions of “shutting down” certain speech, these people have made editorial decisions. They are protected from liability for that editorial decision. They shouldn’t be.

They are liable - as publishers.

I hope Parler takes them down and owns all their shite. This is SO frickING DANGEROUS. It is toxic.