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re: I reject the idea that young adults/millennials “have it harder” than boomers at that age
Posted on 3/30/19 at 6:49 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
Posted on 3/30/19 at 6:49 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
Think houses are too expensive? Buy a starter house. People think they’re going to get out of school and buy a 400,000 house in a nice neighborhood.
Cars too expensive?? bullshite. Buy transportation. You don’t have to drive an F250 king ranch.
You know the biggest difference between boomers and millennials? Boomers knew how to do without!!
Crybaby motherfrickers talk about how they ate ramen and hotdogs in college, well that’s how real motherfrickers ate everyday so they could buy that fricking house at 22!! They drove junker cars that they worked on themselves. They used shite til it broke, fixed it and then used it some more.
Cars too expensive?? bullshite. Buy transportation. You don’t have to drive an F250 king ranch.
You know the biggest difference between boomers and millennials? Boomers knew how to do without!!
Crybaby motherfrickers talk about how they ate ramen and hotdogs in college, well that’s how real motherfrickers ate everyday so they could buy that fricking house at 22!! They drove junker cars that they worked on themselves. They used shite til it broke, fixed it and then used it some more.
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Posted on 3/30/19 at 6:58 pm to GAFF
woah woah woah who said using your common sense was allowed here?
Posted on 3/30/19 at 6:58 pm to cable
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It all depends on where you CHOOSE to live, and that has always been the case. Trendy, exclusive areas have always been expensive. There are plenty of less expensive options out there. And don't give me the "it's where the jobs are" line of bull shite. Commute, like we do/did. Millennials are the whiniest bunch of pussies this country has ever seen.
You nailed it !
But I blame my generation and younger boomers . Father's were more interested in chasing pussy and not raising their boys.
Millennials (not all) but most , are momma's boys. Most of the panhandling Liberals on this board are momma's boys who were never taught personal responsibility by mommy.
They were taught that rich people are evil and taxpayer assistance is the first option instead of the last option.
Posted on 3/30/19 at 7:02 pm to 93and99
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Most of the panhandling Liberals on this board are momma's boys who were never taught personal responsibility by mommy.
Its always someone else's fault.
Posted on 3/30/19 at 7:35 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Whats funny is irhe myths just shift along. When I was a kid I thought the 80s everyone said “everything was so much better in the 50s.” 40 years later and it’s the 80s and 90s thst were so iidealistic.
This was never the case. This is an absolute myth that just won't die.
The opposite is also true. We were supposed to be out of oil and have mass starvation from overpopulation by the 90s.
now they (sometimes there s ame people no less) are saying we’re all gonna die from global warming in 25-30 years. Posted on 3/30/19 at 7:45 pm to Old Character
quote:Houses are so much more expensive than in. 1970!
Think houses are too expensive? Buy a starter house.
Meanwhile the number of people in those houses...
How many kids share a bedroom these days?
The point being... if you chose today to live as people did in the 70s you’d be absolutely loaded with money on a “middle class” salary today. You would have much status though. See the Naval Ravikant post above.
Posted on 3/30/19 at 8:25 pm to cahoots
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It's a reality. People aren't turnning down money and insisting on working for free. They are doing it because they have to.
Let me spell it out for ya friend. The entitled part is where you think you should be able to get a job in the place that is ideal to you, at the company that is ideal to you and get paid what you think you're worth right out of school. One or two of those things are gonna have to slide. I graduated in the early 2000's when the economy was weak. I did a paid internship the summer before I graduated. I also did side work for bargain basement prices while I was in school to get real world experience.
After graduating I quickly found that I wasn't having a lot of luck finding something in my preferred cities since there were so few jobs available. I waited tables to pay the bills while I looked for a job. Eventually I expanded my search and landed a job in the armpit of Missouri, far from my ideal in any regard. Almost every one of my friends, across countless majors, followed some similar path. Not a single one of them accepted two years of indentured servitude to become employable.
While I was employed at my armpit of Missouri job I witnessed multitudes of people pass up similar jobs because they were too good to live there. After hunting for employees under every stone they couldn't even get people with the minimum qualifications. These were perfect stepping stone jobs that went either unfilled or the employer grudgingly accepted a person that they though might be able to do the job after 5 rounds of interviews.
So no, I do not accept that there are not other avenues to gain paid employment. There is always someone willing to take on a kid with real marketable skills, you just might have to turn over a few less pretty stones to find that opportunity.
Posted on 3/30/19 at 8:36 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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e of the more ridiculous things posted by Millennials.
My pop fit into this category. He worked his arse off for 15 years before he could afford a house in a rough part of town.
I think he had a point with that post. Competitively, businesses are MUCH more selective regarding degrees (or preferably related experience).
This is because degrees are plentiful now versus back in past when they were more scarce.
This post was edited on 3/30/19 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 3/31/19 at 12:13 am to Clames
quote:Why don't you post something that's worth more than your dumbass opinion, jackal?
The job market is worse now too. Bull shite. Only morons believe this. Oh, look at you.
Posted on 3/31/19 at 12:16 am to texridder
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Why don't you post something that's worth more than your dumbass opinion, jackal?
Posted on 3/31/19 at 2:24 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
It’s bull most probably got degrees that are not marketable.
The grown adults that act like baby’s in diapers generation do not know how buy a fixer upper that they can afford. Most the trucks I bought were 5 speed transmissions with basic manual windows, pleather seats, and vinyl floor. The interest rates were higher back then.
The grown adults that act like baby’s in diapers generation do not know how buy a fixer upper that they can afford. Most the trucks I bought were 5 speed transmissions with basic manual windows, pleather seats, and vinyl floor. The interest rates were higher back then.
Posted on 3/31/19 at 2:55 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Each generation had to deal with their own set of unique challenges.
Posted on 3/31/19 at 2:58 am to johnnyrocket
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It’s bull most probably got degrees that are not marketable.
The grown adults that act like baby’s in diapers generation do not know how buy a fixer upper that they can afford. Most the trucks I bought were 5 speed transmissions with basic manual windows, pleather seats, and vinyl floor. The interest rates were higher back then.
Instant gratification, and status quo expectations are simply set stupid high. Where does that start, learning realistic expectations and how to live within ones means.....parents' home early on. Cant substitute that with anything else. The 40 to 45 ur old parents of 18 ur old and such, generationally speaking, have had these same issues. That's what Ive noticed amongst my peers anyway.
Posted on 3/31/19 at 3:59 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
College debt is a problem for everyone. Even if you have a marketable degree and can get a job, tuition has reached levels that amount to indentured servitude. The sort of "working your way through college and graduating with no debt" that boomers did doesn't exist today.
Will millenials enjoy the 5 to 10 fold increase in the stock market indices over their career that boomers did?
Boomers retired from my current company with a pension. My generation with a self funded 401k. Millenials will have what? Will they ever be able to afford a house after the QE/Tarp fueled asset bubble blown up by Bush/Clinton?
Will they be able to absorb the seventy percent decrease in the purchasing power of the dollar that boomers weathered and still maintain a first world lifestyle?
Granted a lot of millennial snowflakes are legitimate targets for criticism... But can I blame those who are intelligent and hardworking for looking at the system and saying "hey.you all screwed us?"
Not really. The boomers, to one extent or another, have screwed every subsequent generation.
Will millenials enjoy the 5 to 10 fold increase in the stock market indices over their career that boomers did?
Boomers retired from my current company with a pension. My generation with a self funded 401k. Millenials will have what? Will they ever be able to afford a house after the QE/Tarp fueled asset bubble blown up by Bush/Clinton?
Will they be able to absorb the seventy percent decrease in the purchasing power of the dollar that boomers weathered and still maintain a first world lifestyle?
Granted a lot of millennial snowflakes are legitimate targets for criticism... But can I blame those who are intelligent and hardworking for looking at the system and saying "hey.you all screwed us?"
Not really. The boomers, to one extent or another, have screwed every subsequent generation.
This post was edited on 3/31/19 at 4:02 am
Posted on 3/31/19 at 4:12 am to Boatshoes
Tough shite, things aren't always easy. The Great Depression generation almost starved to death. You have a hissy fit when a boutique coffee shop isn't within walking distance or your internet speed for gaming and streaming drops under 50 Mbps. Your generation is the first in this country's history to demand luxuries. You will have to pay for them.
Just an anecdote, the year before I graduated there was a severe economic contraction and EVERY SINGLE PERSON that graduated one year ahead of me in my field was laid off. Guess what - they survived. I have also lived through two stock market crashes and numerous bear markets, and it will happen again. My generation (and the generation before mine), not yours, was the impetus behind the current bull market. Your generation should stop bitching and start working - and making better political choices - if you want it to continue. As a wise mentor once told me early in my career, quit thinking about things and start doing. It sounds like you should stop going out to eat and partying and start saving money. It certainly sounds like you are smart enough to realize it, so what's stopping you?
Just an anecdote, the year before I graduated there was a severe economic contraction and EVERY SINGLE PERSON that graduated one year ahead of me in my field was laid off. Guess what - they survived. I have also lived through two stock market crashes and numerous bear markets, and it will happen again. My generation (and the generation before mine), not yours, was the impetus behind the current bull market. Your generation should stop bitching and start working - and making better political choices - if you want it to continue. As a wise mentor once told me early in my career, quit thinking about things and start doing. It sounds like you should stop going out to eat and partying and start saving money. It certainly sounds like you are smart enough to realize it, so what's stopping you?
This post was edited on 3/31/19 at 4:33 am
Posted on 3/31/19 at 12:47 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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You guys are arguing that the "plight" of millennials is due to rapacious capitalist exploitation that keeps wages down and prices of necessities high (housing, education, etc). That is Bernie Sanders's basic thesis. And it is like catnip for young people.
I never said that. I mean, yes, the housing policies advocated by prior generations is complete shite and unsustainable. But it's not really a discussion that involves capitalism per se.
Basically, your generation selfishly expanded metros with sprawling neighborhoods that a lot of you couldn't actually afford. So you created new variable rate loans that kicked the can down the road to keep your lifestyle, which eventually crashed the housing market.
You also built in flood and disaster prone areas with no plan for when things go south. See Houston and New Orleans.
During the same time, you deferred infrastructure that was needed for the future. It's really bad in Louisiana but it sucks almost everywhere. Commute times have increased substantially.
So yeah, you guys bascially fricked up housing beyond all belief
This post was edited on 3/31/19 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 3/31/19 at 1:06 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
"Harder" is relative to an individual's personal strengths; strengths which develop in accordance with the cultural and physical scenarios that the individual is born and raised in.
Across the spectrum, there is no way that Millennial numbers could be found to man up and pull a Normandy Beach invasion. Or sustain the trek across Europe or the Pacific, that 'the greatest generation' did. They don't have the metal. The very fact that they whine and feel entitled is proof. "Trendy", is definitive; lemmings on the march. They are toast when the inevitable conflict/competition rubber meets the road.
"The Fourth Turning" lays it out. All things are cyclical. Crash and reboot in the offing.
Across the spectrum, there is no way that Millennial numbers could be found to man up and pull a Normandy Beach invasion. Or sustain the trek across Europe or the Pacific, that 'the greatest generation' did. They don't have the metal. The very fact that they whine and feel entitled is proof. "Trendy", is definitive; lemmings on the march. They are toast when the inevitable conflict/competition rubber meets the road.
"The Fourth Turning" lays it out. All things are cyclical. Crash and reboot in the offing.
Posted on 3/31/19 at 1:27 pm to RCDfan1950
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The very fact that they whine and feel entitled is proof. "Trendy", is definitive; lemmings on the march. They are toast when the inevitable conflict/competition rubber meets the road.
That’s pretty rich in a thread about boomers vs millennials. Boomers felt so entitled to their McMansions and (upper) middle class lifestyles that they crashed the housing market and forgot to build infrastructure. Thanks.
This post was edited on 3/31/19 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 3/31/19 at 1:52 pm to cahoots
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That’s pretty rich in a thread about boomers vs millennials. Boomers felt so entitled to their McMansions and (upper) middle class lifestyles that they crashed the housing market and forgot to build infrastructure. Thanks.
Boomers exploited (I.e., worked) the manufacturing market after WWII; the rest of the World was in ashes. Boomers PAID with free-market earnings according to their marketable skills.
The Dems crashed the housing market (the economic foundations which financed it) by passing egalitarian law which forced said Institutions to make bad loans to people that could not really afford houses.
Infrastructure...pissed away; all over the Globe.
The biggest mistake that Boomers made was to ASSUME that our Politicians were above board as "public SERVANTS", while we worked at earning more affluence. Now we know. "Medicare lockbox" was a joke. They all got rich on insider trading, etc., and kicked the finance can down the road.
The Founders feared the time when the People realized that they could "write themselves a check" out of the National Treasury. Now we're facing the 'socialism'/economic inequality thing, as government has become the/a source of financial access to basic life-sustaining goods and services. Once that *equality* virus gets rolling, it'll be like Ebola. Unstoppable minus the most extraordinary of disciplines.
Honest Boomers are VERY concerned re our children. But there are some very important things that can not be passed on, like money in the bank or a booming economy. That open Border is going to challenge Millenials like they do not yet realize. Those folk come up hard. Like one honest Latino Poster on here said..."we'll outbreed" and outwork the weak Whites. IMO, He's right.
When Human wisdom fails, Mother Nature is the default. Good luck.
Posted on 3/31/19 at 2:09 pm to RCDfan1950
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Across the spectrum, there is no way that Millennial numbers could be found to man up and pull a Normandy Beach invasion. Or sustain the trek across Europe or the Pacific, that 'the greatest generation' did. They don't have the metal. The very fact that they whine and feel entitled is proof. "Trendy", is definitive; lemmings on the march. They are toast when the inevitable conflict/competition rubber meets the road.
Christ. That was total war, and I definitely think people would be able to do the same thing now.
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