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Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:03 pm to coachcrisp
He’s a liberal but he sees the far left for the radicals that they are. If he had any morals he’d become an independent he clearly doesn’t fit in with that party anymore
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:04 pm to coachcrisp
Pelosi said she's putting paid leave back in the BBB bill despite knowing that Manchin is opposed and that it will significantly drive the price tag past his alleged red line of $1.7 trillion. If Manchin had any real grit, he would just come out and say Brandon's bill is dead and he's killing it by vowing to vote no.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:05 pm to Pelican fan99
He remains a Dem because he holds some power in that caucus.
McConnell hates to ruffle feathers and probably doesn't welcome the headaches that Manchin switching parties would include.
McConnell hates to ruffle feathers and probably doesn't welcome the headaches that Manchin switching parties would include.
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:05 pm to timdonaghyswhistle
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When he signs onto this multi trillion dollar monstrosity in the coming month, I hope your adoration for him holds steadfast.
He just said last night's result made him more steadfast in his concern around the reconciliation bill, and a number of others have joined him. We'll see.
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:06 pm to coachcrisp
Well, he has you fooled. He is pretty unprincipled as most politicians are. He will say a lot but look at his history and what he has DONE.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:07 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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He just said last night's result made him more steadfast in his concern around the reconciliation bill, and a number of others have joined him. We'll see.
I.e., the cost of poker just went up.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:07 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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and what he has DONE
Not voted for Biden/Pelosi/Schumer's bullshite bill?
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:08 pm to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
quote:Exactly!
He votes with Chuck Schumer 90% of the time
That is why I don't understand conservatives getting starry-eyed over him. He says one thing and votes another.
Plus he defended his POS daughter who raised the price of Epipens 500%.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:09 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
Just a matter of time and the pot being right. He’ll cave eventually, probably to an “acceptable” price tag on the bill but he will vote to approve.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:09 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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Well, he has you fooled. He is pretty unprincipled as most politicians are. He will say a lot but look at his history and what he has DONE.
I'd say he's making history by what he's doing for the country right now!
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:12 pm to Centinel
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Not voted for Biden/Pelosi/Schumer's bullshite bill?
Not voted YET. If he remains a no then that will be a change in his behavior. Last close vote the non-profit his wife runs got a few hundred million thrown her way and all of the sudden he was for it.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:13 pm to MDB
quote:He's already said that, but he wants the original infastructure bill to pass FIRST, then give congress a chance to see exactly what the 2nd one's gonna cost before it's considered.
Just a matter of time and the pot being right. He’ll cave eventually, probably to an “acceptable” price tag on the bill but he will vote to approve.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:13 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
Shush now.
Don't be disparaging the name of Senator Joe Manchin, whose principles are only for sale for the very highest of prices.
Don't be disparaging the name of Senator Joe Manchin, whose principles are only for sale for the very highest of prices.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:20 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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Coal and the energy sector are kind of a big deal in WV,
He said there was an abundance of coal and natural gas and that we should be building pipelines.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:23 pm to purple18
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If we have more moderate Dems like him this country would be better off.
While I agree he is much better than Chuck Schumer and his ilk, never forget Manchin voted twice to impeach Trump. Lost all respect for him then. Both impeachments were blatantly bogus.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:25 pm to omegaman66
This. He's voted to confirm every single one of Brandon's cabinet and federal judge nominees. And to be fair, L. Graham has voted about the same way.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:27 pm to TDsngumbo
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frick Joe Manchin! His arse is just as liberal as the others but he’s just better at hiding it than they are.
He is pro gun rights, pro energy, pro filibuster, and pro (semi)fiscal responsibility. At this point he has much more in common with conservatives than liberals in DC.
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 6:28 pm
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:39 pm to samson73103
He actually did far worse than vote twice to impeach Trump.
He voted twice to convict Trump.
He's a Jan 6 believer.
He voted twice to convict Trump.
He's a Jan 6 believer.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:39 pm to coachcrisp
If his arse wasn’t on the line next election he would be right in the middle with them, so don’t make him out to be some great hero. But I’m happy that the complex system we have is actually keeping them in check
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