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re: I just don't understand why in the 50s and 60s these shootings were extremely rare.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:07 pm to Numberwang
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:07 pm to Numberwang
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What happened?
Social media. Now everyone thinks they are more important to this world than the guy next to them. Everyone has an avenue nowadays to their 15 minutes of fame or as I like to say, their 15 minutes of shame.
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Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:13 pm to Pettifogger
You can't limit it to those factors but it has definitely played a part in the current events. You can't remove morals and not expect to have consequences, it just doesn't work that way.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:15 pm to Brazos
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You can't limit it to those factors but it has definitely played a part in the current events. You can't remove morals and not expect to have consequences, it just doesn't work that way.
But if those morals are removed, why are crime rates depressed significantly from their high points?
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:19 pm to Centinel
To make yourself famous you can do many things besides shooting people, especially kids. Goodness mercy.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:20 pm to Numberwang
There were 150 school shootings from 1776 up until 1996. There have been over 250 since Columbine.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:20 pm to Numberwang
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:20 pm to kingbob
Does this mean this is a generational issue?
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:22 pm to Numberwang
Are you really serious? Yes, these shootings were not a bi-monthly ordeal, but your reasoning makes me feel like you're trolling.
While the United States was close to 90% Caucasian, religion is a different matter.
Statistically speaking crime is at an all-time low. We just have access to a 24-hour news cycle and the internet provides us with real-time notifications and information. We are plugged in thus feel that crime happens at a higher rate.
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America was 90% Caucasian/Christian.
While the United States was close to 90% Caucasian, religion is a different matter.
Statistically speaking crime is at an all-time low. We just have access to a 24-hour news cycle and the internet provides us with real-time notifications and information. We are plugged in thus feel that crime happens at a higher rate.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:22 pm to themunch
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To make yourself famous you can do many things besides shooting people, especially kids. Goodness mercy.
But none of them are nearly as fast and far reaching as shooting up a school.
When you've been ignored your whole life and want to make everyone pay....there's no better option.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:24 pm to Numberwang
You're less likely to die a violent death now than ever.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:24 pm to Centinel
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When you've been ignored your whole life and want to make everyone pay....there's no better option.
This is not the first generation to have this issue but it is the more recent generations to have this solution.
Why is that?
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:27 pm to OhGill
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Statistically speaking crime is at an all-time low. We just have access to a 24-hour news cycle and the internet provides us with real-time notifications and information. We are plugged in thus feel that crime happens at a higher rate.
We have seen a depression of crime rates to levels not seen since the 1960's and 1970's despite the fact that the country has 100 million more people. Mass shooting events stand out, and thus seem to negate the depression of crime rates in general.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:27 pm to themunch
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Does this mean this is a generational issue?
It could be. I think it has a lot to do with Columbine itself and how the media reported the event. They made the shooters into celebrities, semi-martyrs of sorts. It made "going out in a blaze of glory" a way to achieve instant celebrity status for the mentally ill, abused, and downtrodden kids. It gave them an out that wouldn't make them just another obituary in the school paper, but a nation-wide household name.
I think there is certainly some kind of link between the media's response to Columbine and the massive increase in mass shootings since then.
Also, don't forget, schools did not start becoming "gun-free zones" until 1990. Prior to that, students often kept their hunting rifles in their cars in the parking lot.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:29 pm to Numberwang
you mean before a majority of weapons we have readily available today were readily available. boy i wonder why.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:30 pm to Machine
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you mean before a majority of weapons we have readily available today were readily available. boy i wonder why.
A majority of weapons we have readily available today weren't available in 1990?
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:30 pm to themunch
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This is not the first generation to have this issue but it is the more recent generations to have this solution.
Why is that?
Social media and the 24/7 news cycle.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:31 pm to kingbob
quote:the 50s and 60s were the 1990s?
A majority of weapons we have readily available today weren't available in 1990?
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:31 pm to Machine
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you mean before a majority of weapons we have readily available today were readily available. boy i wonder why.
When was the AR-15 developed?
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:31 pm to Numberwang
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yet we didn't create mass-murdering spree-killers by the dozens every year.
You do realize that statistically we are living in the most peaceful times in history and crime rates per 100,000 are the lowest they have been since the mid 60s?
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:35 pm to stout
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You do realize that statistically we are living in the most peaceful times in history and crime rates per 100,000 are the lowest they have been since the mid 60s?
No one cares because they too aren't immune from the effects of social media, and they would rather ascribe the cause of this to specific things they feel aren't valued anymore. I mean, has anyone considered how amazing it is that our crime rates have dropped to levels not seen in 50 years despite the fact the country has, at the minimum, 100-120 million people?
Mass shootings are rare events which have the high potential to be emulated, and unfortunately they work to set the narrative despite evidence to the contrary.
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