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I just don't understand why in the 50s and 60s these shootings were extremely rare.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:18 pm
Back when divorce was rare, and feminism hadn't destroyed marriage.
America was 90% Caucasian/Christian.
The Left tells me all of the above conditions were "the bad old days" yet we didn't create mass-murdering spree-killers by the dozens every year.
Kids could play in their neighborhoods without constant supervision because the society was so high-trust and people were so decent.
What happened?
America was 90% Caucasian/Christian.
The Left tells me all of the above conditions were "the bad old days" yet we didn't create mass-murdering spree-killers by the dozens every year.
Kids could play in their neighborhoods without constant supervision because the society was so high-trust and people were so decent.
What happened?
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:20 pm to Numberwang
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because the society was so high-trust
in the 50s and 60s?
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:20 pm to Numberwang
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What happened?
You already know. We kicked God out of society, now we reap what we sow.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:20 pm to Numberwang
I think cultural atomization and decay has played a part in it, but it's important to remember that virtually all of these guys would have been involuntarily locked in a mental institution sixty years ago.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:20 pm to Numberwang
in the 50s and 60s, We had cap guns till the left took them all off the shelves.
They claimed it would make the children less prone to violence. That playing cowboys and indians made you hate folks. That playing war was bad for your psyche.
They claimed it would make the children less prone to violence. That playing cowboys and indians made you hate folks. That playing war was bad for your psyche.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:21 pm to Numberwang
We'd see less of these mass shootings if social media and 24-hour news media weren't around rather than guns. Abstraction from reality, egocentrism and the desire to be famous are characteristics of modern America that social media and round the clock news fuels.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:22 pm to Numberwang
there wasnt a 24 hr news cycle...stuff happened, news was confined locally
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:22 pm to Numberwang
US population went from about 100MM then to about 330MM now.
Throw in the active efforts to erode societal connections among Americans and, well...
Throw in the active efforts to erode societal connections among Americans and, well...
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:23 pm to Numberwang
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What happened?
The american interstate system flourished. It has been all downhill since then.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:23 pm to Numberwang
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What happened?
Lyndon Baines Johnson.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:23 pm to Numberwang
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Back when divorce was rare, and feminism hadn't destroyed marriage.
America was 90% Caucasian/Christian.
The Left tells me all of the above conditions were "the bad old days" yet we didn't create mass-murdering spree-killers by the dozens every year.
Kids could play in their neighborhoods without constant supervision because the society was so high-trust and people were so decent.
What happened?
I agree with all the degradation of society arguments.
But there is a constant drumbeat of "it's the left" "it's minorities" "it's the atheists."
Plenty of shitty parents are white, Republican and go to church. Plenty of worthlessly irresponsible people are in those categories. Hell, I've got them in my extended family.
I'm not at all opposed to talking about how the absence of faith, the nuclear family, etc. have impacted society. But I don't think you can limit this conversation to those issues.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:24 pm to SCLibertarian
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We'd see less of these mass shootings if social media and 24-hour news media weren't around rather than guns. Abstraction from reality, egocentrism and the desire to be famous are characteristics of modern America that social media and round the clock news fuels.
this
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:26 pm to Salmon
Social engineering has failed this country.
not directed at you Salmon, just making a post..
not directed at you Salmon, just making a post..
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:26 pm to SCLibertarian
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Abstraction from reality, egocentrism and the desire to be famous are characteristics of modern America that social media and round the clock news fuels.
And the fastest way to become famous is go shoot up a school.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:27 pm to Centinel
You can do many things rather than shoot up kids.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:29 pm to Numberwang
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What happened?
Gangster rap.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:31 pm to Numberwang
I mean, the rate of total crime is reaching mid-1960 levels, with that rate cut nearly in half from its 1980 high. The violent crime rate has been dropping significantly as well, down from a high of 758.1 per 100000 in 1991 to 397.1 per 100,000 in 2016.
The mass shooting issue, in my view, is very much tied in with social media, and how that media affects people who have not developed completely. That is a much more complicated issue than tying mass shooters to social degradation at large. I'd also argue that the rate of technological progress has created culture lag to the degree that can't be discounted when discussing mass-shooting events.
The mass shooting issue, in my view, is very much tied in with social media, and how that media affects people who have not developed completely. That is a much more complicated issue than tying mass shooters to social degradation at large. I'd also argue that the rate of technological progress has created culture lag to the degree that can't be discounted when discussing mass-shooting events.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:34 pm to Numberwang
quote:Are those not characteristics of most school shooters?
America was 90% Caucasian/Christian
What has changed is the nature of 24/7 10-Channel News coverage providing these shooters instant national fame/infamy.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:50 pm to tigersbh
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You already know. We kicked God out of society, now we reap what we sow.
This
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:58 pm to themunch
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You can do many things rather than shoot up kids.
Such as?
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