re: I just don’t care about abortion, either way

You need to quit the act, you're as transparent as Waterford crystal. It's not that you don't care, you are pro-abortion. The only reason that you say it's not for you is because you are a man and are ineligible for an abortion. If you were a woman, you'd have one in a monent just for the fun of it.

You need to own yourself, SON.

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But you still cannot say killing a child whose been living for say 4 years is the same as abortion.

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Okay...Fair enough.

Let me change the parameters then...

One day old.

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After 2 months the kid gets due process. This is my legal and moral compromise.

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Are you saying that prior to two months the Human life in the womb is not worthy of Human rights?

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You are very tolerant of other people wanting less government and wanting government to stay out of their life.

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Where do you stand on things like the Civil Rights act and the ADA?

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But that’s MY CHOICE, not the government’s.

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You keep saying that it should not be the government's choice to legalize abortion or make abortion illegal. You do realize that while RvW is a federal law and thus a government ruling, when it is struck down it goes back the the states and becomes a law of the people that can be upheld or struck down by a vote of the people. At that point YOUR CHOICE becomes significant.

Yes. It absolutely is a state issue. And states should absolutely have the right to make laws about it themselves. But I still don’t want my state government making laws that take away my choice.

It is weird that people have this visceral of a response, and it’s obviously the minority opinion among conservatives.... but I completely agree with you. It’s also funny because let’s face it, it’s liberals getting abortions not conservatives. So republicans are trying to save liberals from dying, and yet liberals will fight tooth and nail to be able to kill their future generations lol. It’s strange. Strange that they want to kill their own type of people, and strange that Republicans want to get in the way of it to keep more weirdos around. Liberals always cry that they need safe spaces etc. or Republicans “will literally kill them” and here they are not only willing, but actively demanding they should be able to kill their own offspring and our party tries to stop it?


Getting an abortion is wrong. It’s killing a life. But it’s some weird choice that became a legal loophole for murder. It’s legalized murder, and the law should force you to say that, but I agree with the OP that it just really doesn’t affect me personally if someone gets an abortion. Just like seeing people on the news dying in bad neighborhoods etc. I feel bad for the victims, but it isn’t something that affects me. It’s odd because unlike Liberals, Conservatives are usually the party of less restrictions, “we’ll stay out of your way” etc. But abortion is like the one thing Conservatives try to mandate.

TBH too it isn’t really like well-to-do upstanding people getting abortions. Let’s be honest it’s usually weirdo whack job liberals, BLM, alphabet weirdos, extremely poor young adults, drug abusers, etc. People who society would be better off if they didn’t procreate anyway. It feels weird to say that, but I’ve often wondered why the right really cares. I get the moral aspect and murder is wrong etc, but realistically abortion is just a self-purge of these weird people dragging down society, so it’s really of benefit to conservatives in a weird way. We should just stay out of their way. Less of those people will one be a benefit of the planet by reducing population growth, and two to America in general because like I said above - you’re fooling yourself if you think these kids arent going to grow up and be a drain on society and vote Democrat. And yes I get the “the babies need a voice” argument but I’m not here to be mother Theresa, just being realistic. Less of those types of people is of benefit to the world, let them tear themselves apart imo.

My stance on it is if you get an abortion, you were gonna be a shitty parent anyway. So while ideally we as a society wouldn’t have to resort to murder, and these people just wouldn’t have kids in the first place or just let them be adopted by parents who can love and provide for them, that just isn’t realistic unfortunately. These types of people are irresponsible and are going to keep getting pregnant.

TLDR - you should have to call it baby murder, “I’m here for my baby murdering procedure” etc. but an unfit parent who would otherwise raise some neglected kids that will vote with the far left in 18 years isn’t going to really bother me if they stop having that kid. Selfishly Republicans should see this as their own loophole to reduce the liberal contingency without having to do anything, just let them do it to themselves. I guess why it’s called pro-life vs. pro-choice and not pro-abortion/murder. I’m letting them choose to do what they want and am okay to stay out of it

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I’m sorry, but I just don’t give a shite if someone chooses to have an abortion or if someone chooses not to.

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You’re able say this and are capable of espousing this position only because your Mom chose life for you! So you don’t care if others are denied the same opportunity either…wow!

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My original point is, I just don’t care if government allows abortion or not. It’s not an issue for me because I know MY VALUES. And my values would never get an abortion. But that’s MY CHOICE, not the government’s.

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I appreciate your consistency. Carry on.

If only there was a way for these piece of shite people to be responsible and keep from getting pregnant if they don’t want children…oh wait.