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re: I have some questions about the military action taken against Venezuela

Posted on 1/3/26 at 8:51 am to
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
3006 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 8:51 am to
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What does your son do in the Navy?


Something related to cyber security.
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
4741 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 8:52 am to
Sir, how dare you ask serious questions at a time like this? Can't you just fall in line and join the other clapping seals on their pedestals? If you do, you will get a nice, fresh fish.
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
2071 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 8:54 am to
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I have a son who is active-duty Navy, so I worry about him.


So, I suppose you tried to steer your son away from the military, and he told you to get bent. Sounds like he doesn’t have much respect for his father’s opinion.
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
3006 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 8:57 am to
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Chevron


Semi-related personal anecdote: In the summer of 1981 I was employed as an engineering intern by Cities Service oil, whose HQ was in Tulsa.

Shortly thereafter, they were acquired by Occidental. Oxy spun off the CITGO gasoline business, which is now owned by the government of Venezuela.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 8:59 am to
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The ties with communism have been severed.

You are aware the body guards for Maduro were Cuban? My best guess is dead Cubans now. Cuba has no capability. China and especially Russia are not located logistically to get involved.


I am not following the minutiae of the claimed actions, and no, I didn't know Maduro's body guards are said to be Cuban. (aka mercs)


quote:

Cuba has no capability. China and especially Russia are not located logistically to get involved. Venezuela has oil.they can buy their way to stability. There is Government elected and in place that can take over. We’ll see how this plays out.


Central America is way out of Russia's sphere of influence. China? I assume they are already well embedded in other Central-South America countries; and ironically also already well embedded within the USA (the incoming additional 500,000 Chinese students to be admitted into America notwithstanding.)

I'm sorry -- I remain skeptical of US involvement and "official" goals that are claimed to benefit the Venezuelan people. Based on ME policies and actions, our track record and credibility is suspect to say the least.
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
3006 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:01 am to
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So, I suppose you tried to steer your son away from the military, and he told you to get bent. Sounds like he doesn’t have much respect for his father’s opinion.


Another vile and angry person.

Your supposition is so far off the mark, it is laughable.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
9144 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:08 am to
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tl;dr
If true, that’s kind of pitiful
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
3006 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:09 am to
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China? I assume they are already well embedded in other Central-South America countries;


I'm pretty sure they have their hooks into Chile. China owns controlling interest in SQM, a Chilean company that is the world's largest lithium producer. I have owned their stock in the past.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89083 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:10 am to
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And I already got laid. Now about to go jog a few miles.


Is he going jogging with you?
Posted by TiderTom
Pleasant Grove
Member since Apr 2011
488 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:12 am to
Oh gosh how I wish the word young applied to me. You posed a “what about”question I merely asked you how you knew those things weren’t happening already. You’re posting like this is an incredibly bad thing and it may not be. we simply don’t know.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68833 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:14 am to
I generally think “follow the money” is sound advice.

The problem with this action, as with all “regime change operations, is what happens next. Will Venezuela become
a lawless state with no disciplined government? This could prove to be more of a problem for the U.S. interests and drug exports.
Posted by coldbeerfan
Orange Beach MAGA Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
1686 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:16 am to
Interesting that you didn’t post my entire post. Typical leftist behavior.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9551 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:17 am to
This was not a former socialist government. 25% of the population of Venezuela were forced from their property. There were quite a few engineers educated in SEC collages from Venezuela. I worked with quite a few Electrical Engineers. These people could not go home. Their land seized and family farms taken by force.

This ends drug trafficking, should the remnants of the government get on board. An end to the Chinese ramp.

America First. Democrats screaming about this are knee deep in Minnesota. That cabal needs to STHU. Quit stealing from citizens of the US.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:22 am to
Explain how this will stop drug trafficking?

And why has Trump pardoned over 100 Drug traffickers?
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27202 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:25 am to
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I have a few questions:


Venezuela did not elect Maduro. The rightful ruler will be installed.

Venezuela is full blown communist against the peoples will.

Venezuela went from the best country in SA to the worst under communist rule.

Trump is extracting revenge for a number of reasons. One of which is the rigging of the election in the US and also elections abroad.

Maduro is ruling over the country as a the head of the drug cartels. We are at war officially with them.

Maduro emptied his jails by sending them to the USA. We don't want their drug dealing murderers here.

Maduro was waging war against the US. Trying to destroy us and bring us down by turning the US into crime ridden shite hole.

Trump has rightly shifted the focus of the USA to our neighbors instead of half way around the world, of countries that are separated from us by oceans. There is a reason our enemies have concentrated on influence in central and south America.

Hope this answers some of your questions. Oh and yeah the people of Venezuela are celebrating right not. You should too.
Posted by rtr72
Alabama
Member since Aug 2011
832 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:28 am to
Move to the EU
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59300 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:28 am to
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I understand that we want to damage the cartels. Will this regime-change action get us any closer to accomplishing that goal? If so, how? I need that to be explained to me.


Think of it this way: the sinkings of the drug boats were shots across the bow, warnings to the cartels that we would come for them through Venezuela.

This is only the pretty bow to distract from the bigger goal, to halt the encroachment of Russia and China into the western hemisphere through Venezuela (Maduro started working with the Chinese on expending their Belt and Road initiative with a Memorandum of Understanding in 2018).

Another secondary effect is hoped to be the return to Venezuela of the many citizens who fled the Maduro regime. With the spectacular failure of socialism there, I have to wonder how much in-fighting there will be as the returning citizens flush out the regime leaders and their followers (IF that happens). It's possible the new leadership there is able to use this momentum to begin reforms which could bring Venezuela back to its prior prominence.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:28 am to
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warnings to the cartels that we would come for them through Venezuela.


Good thing Fentanyl goes straight to Mexico.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31687 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:30 am to
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Sid E Walker


Is your avatar He-Man with a Greta face? Something is off with it..
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:30 am to
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I'm pretty sure they have their hooks into Chile.

China owns controlling interest in SQM, a Chilean company that is the world's largest lithium producer. I have owned their stock in the past.


Interesting little tidbits.

So when is the US invading Chile? Muh-Monroe Doctine is clearly violated!

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