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re: i don't understand how wanting/not wanting to stay locked down
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:17 pm to Wally Sparks
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:17 pm to Wally Sparks
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:17 pm to TigerDoc
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Look at the state-by-state polling for answers of "yes" to "are you extremely concerned by the threat of the coronavirus?"
Link?
Why are you people so afraid?
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:20 pm to Choctaw
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This post was edited on 6/10/20 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:20 pm to Wtodd
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Everything is political...if the Reps are FOR something, then the Dems are against it....and vice versa.....it does not matter what the subject is.....if the Reps wanted to give everyone $1000 a month, the Dems would hate the idea (even tho the idea came from them)
There is some counter-signalling, but as Trump started to take it more seriously the Democratic public did too. Not saying that they were taking their cues from him, but they weren't dissuaded by his increasing concern.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:22 pm to roadGator
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Link?
Why are you people so afraid?
Link is above. It would've been interesting to poll that question as to why. I suspect people take their cues for concern from their trusted authorities and the coalitions have different trusted authorities that have each taken very different attitudes to this pandemic and communicated very differently about it.
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:25 pm to Choctaw
It more the democrats politicizing it. Everyone else understands we “flattened the curve” so let’s move on. I think people were rightfully initially skeptical, but people bought in to “flatten the curve”.
The democrats want more government power, more redistribution of wealth, and to attack Trump.
The democrats want more government power, more redistribution of wealth, and to attack Trump.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:30 pm to Colonel Flagg
Flattening the curve is still operative though, as "raise the line" is too (increasing system capacity). If more people move around, R0 goes back up and case growth grows in exponential fashion until we've got herd immunity. If we can keep R0 down through smart testing & isolating and get more effective treatments then we can feel more comfortable that more social contact will work out ok.
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:33 pm to TigerDoc
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You may hit a paywall, though.
didn't want to say WAPO huh? They are fricking openly skewing their coverage of both Biden's finger fricking and the screw job on Flynn and you expect us to believe this is on the level?
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:37 pm to gthog61
This goes right to my point about trusted authorities skewing the coalitions perceptions' of the situation.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:42 pm to Choctaw
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has become a democrat/republican thing. ive even seen posts on other sites from Dem business owners saying they would rather lose their business than open early. i just don't get how this specific topic has become political.
Pretty easy to explain. The devil himself couldn't lose a presidential election as an incumbent, with the economy roaring, people making more money than they ever have, having more disposable income, and taking better/longer vacations. Just doesn't happen. So this virus was politicized almost from the beginning, not only by the socialist democrats trying to make hay over how Trump handled the situation, but it was quickly recognized that this could be the very device they needed to crash what was a booming economy.
Which is why you are seeing the blue areas doing everything they can to make the problem worse, make the problem seem even worse than that, (worse than it ever was going to be) and dragging their feet in the effort to normalize, and return to the roaring economy we had when it started.
Surely you realize that the socialist democrats don't give a flying shite about how much harm they are causing the American people by doing so. It's not like their own propaganda arm, the media, is going to hold them to account for it. And if your lifetime has ever taught you anything about socialist democrats, it should be the knowledge that for them, the ends ALWAYS justifies the means, because they never suffer consequences.
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:42 pm to Choctaw
quote:
has become a democrat/republican thing. ive even seen posts on other sites from Dem business owners saying they would rather lose their business than open early. i just don't get how this specific topic has become political.
These policies are not political for republicans. I have seen republicans on both side of the issue, though most want to open.
The dems would rather lose their business than have trump re-elected and continue to make money. So for them, it is totally political.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:46 pm to thetempleowl
You're right that they're controversial and contested among Republicans and not much so among Democrats. I think his point, though, is that the "open now" voices are almost all coming from one side.
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:49 pm to TigerDoc
Yes. One side wants the country to be free.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:53 pm to Choctaw
Ideology replaced thinking long ago
Evangelicals adore Trump for Gods sake.
Evangelicals adore Trump for Gods sake.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:54 pm to roadGator
Like TempleOwl says, the Republican party is divided over this and doesn't really know what it wants right now.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:57 pm to Choctaw
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Choctawi don't understand how wanting/not wanting to stay locked downhas become a democrat/republican thing
Simple.
The filth have figured out that a long lock down improves their chances politically.
Just look at TigerDoc. That fricker has no shame whatsoever about his level of dishonesty.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:58 pm to Choctaw
Rational vs Emotional
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:59 pm to TigerDoc
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It seems to be a feature of the politicization of the threat itself, likely due to coverage in the fragmented media-spheres. Look at the state-by-state polling for answers of "yes" to "are you extremely concerned by the threat of the coronavirus?" back to late February before we knew we had any community-acquired cases.
Congratulations. You discovered what we already knew.
Liberals are a bunch of pathetic humans perpetually in a state of fear/anger/despair.
We on the right already knew this.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:59 pm to ShortyRob
Alright, Rob. So assume all the Democrats are cynically pseudo-concerned about this virus.
Why are half the Republicans?
Why are half the Republicans?
Posted on 4/30/20 at 1:00 pm to TigerDoc
quote:In other words, trusted liberal authorities perpetually sell fear...…...and liberals are some buying mother frickers.
Link is above. It would've been interesting to poll that question as to why. I suspect people take their cues for concern from their trusted authorities
Again. This isn't actually news to anyone...………...but you.
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