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re: I don’t understand how people think Trump is dumb

Posted on 5/29/24 at 2:28 pm to
Posted by redneck hippie
Oklahoma
Member since Dec 2008
6296 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 2:28 pm to
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He's not dumb, he just addresses his followers at a 6th grade level to seem as if he is one of them.



I remember three or four years ago. The common board explanation for all the misspelled tweets was it was an act so he would seem relatable to his base.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 3:10 pm to
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Doesn’t surprise me alphas trigger you
Triggered? Nah. Just annoyed that he threw away an easy win. Like Trump himself would say - I like the guys who win.
This post was edited on 5/30/24 at 12:39 am
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10422 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:26 pm to
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How could he NOT know that was coming after Russiagate and the Ukraine impeachment, which were clearly deep state setups?


With such a compelling argument full of logic and evidence, it's hard to believe I'm not convinced.
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
6213 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:21 am to
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It’s really fascinating if you think about it. The self-anointed intelligentsia tell us ad nauseam what a fool Trump is, and yet they can’t get him. He outplays them at every turn. There’s a lot of stupidity in that equation, but it’s obviously not Trump.



I wouldn’t say that it is correct to say that Trump “outplays them at every turn”.

Whether you believe they were fair trials or not, the fact is that Trump currently owes $540 million in civil judgments.

Whether you believe they are legitimate or not, Trump is also subject to four separate criminal cases right now.

Now, you may argue that he will somehow use these legal cases in his favor to ultimately “outplay them”. But you would still be ignoring the fact that whether you accept the results of the 2020 election as legitimate or not, Donald Trump is not currently residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue as the President of the United States.






Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
15176 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 5:15 am to
Says the dumbass
Posted by GruntbyAssociation
Member since Jul 2013
8630 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 5:49 am to
These people who think he’s so stupid would never debate him.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48158 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 6:00 am to
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Why did he go through with J6 and get his people set up and potentially destroy his legacy?

please define what you mean - and be specific with your wording.

J6 is a calendar date - nobody can avoid that.

So, if there is some context other than "what everybody who watches MSNBC knows," please provide - for us illiterates.

BUT - be prepared to defend any cause/effect statement you make.

Please don't just drop a turd into the punchbowl and run.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36038 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 6:07 am to
First rule in avoiding a trap

Knowing of its existence.

Jan. 6 types should have understood this and not gone for the cheese.
Posted by solus
Member since Dec 2019
3568 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 6:46 am to
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He's not dumb, he just addresses his followers at a 6th grade level to seem as if he is one of them


I mean he has to. It's not like his supporters have ever been national merit semifinalists


Death threats in 3...2..1
This post was edited on 5/30/24 at 6:48 am
Posted by Breaux
Member since Nov 2005
4524 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 6:51 am to
Everything is stopping what was supposed to come.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66960 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 7:09 am to
Two points.

- I didn't really have a problem with Trump's initial election challenges. Wasn't the Supreme Court one that states' election procedures needed to be changed legislatively and not administratively? Whatever it was, once that was lost, he should have called off the dogs. Taking this to J6 was idiotic. What was the goal after that? Six month Cyber Ninja audits in the states in dispute? This board would have freaked out if Hilldawg did something like that in 2016.

- The rally was really stupid. Do Trump supporters have a right to protest? Sure. But, the way Trump summoned everybody gave the appearance some type of Kraken would be released. And all it did was get his supporters set up in a fed trap that he should have seen coming miles away after going through Russiagate and the Ukraine impeachment.

Conceding around Christmas would have been the real 8D MAGA chess move. He could continue to take the position it was rigged with millions of mail-ins pumped into the system, but that he is moving on for the benefit of the country and will work on election security/integrity.
This post was edited on 5/30/24 at 7:16 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467164 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 7:23 am to
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What does "go through with J6" mean?

If he was smart, he'd have seen what a shite show it would have been and how badly it would have affected him negatively and told the people not to show up.

quote:

Does he not have a right to speak in front of his residence?

What does that have to do with this discussion?

The question is if giving that speed was smart or dumb, and it was clearly dumb.

quote:

Do you think he planned to overthrow the US government with an unarmed group of boomers?

No, but that's irrelevant to the conversation.

Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
7274 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 7:25 am to
Simple. The election was fraudulent and was stolen.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467164 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 7:25 am to
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Whatever it was, once that was lost, he should have called off the dogs

Correct. What good was the rally on January 6 at that point? What tactile good could have come from it? There was basically 0 real benefit (only emotional/feelings and virtue signaling was available at that point).

quote:

The rally was really stupid. Do Trump supporters have a right to protest? Sure. But, the way Trump summoned everybody gave the appearance some type of Kraken would be released. And all it did was get his supporters set up in a fed trap that he should have seen coming miles away after going through Russiagate and the Ukraine impeachment.

And this is the interpretation most favorable to Trump.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467164 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 7:26 am to
quote:

Simple. The election was fraudulent and was stolen.

We can assume that's true. '

There's still no reason for Trump to support the protests on January 6.

What tactile good could those protests lead to?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10713 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 7:27 am to
quote:

I don’t understand how people think Trump is dumb


I do.

He does and says plenty of dumb stuff.

He does and says stuff that's not dumb as well. But his paranoid and extremely fragile ego prompts him to say and do lots of dumb stuff.

Dumbest guy I ever knew was a double board-certified medical specialist that I employed. Had to be smart academically to earn the credentials he earned, but he did the stupidest stuff of anybody I have ever seen, and he did it on a regular basis. And for the same reason as Trump.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48158 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 10:51 am to
quote:

Conceding around Christmas would have been the real 8D MAGA chess move. He could continue to take the position it was rigged with millions of mail-ins pumped into the system, but that he is moving on for the benefit of the country and will work on election security/integrity

Now I actually agree with that - I was in hopes he would do it.

HOWEVER - there were STILL hopes (unrealistic I know) that SOME rational court would ask some relevant questions =

= "What steps have been taken to audit the districts where there are logical allegations of fraudulence?

= "Has anything been done to actually examine the allegations being made?"

= "Is 'recounting the ballots" the only response to these allegations?"

= "Is the petitioner responsible for fulfilling the entire execution of a forensic AUDIT in order to establish the FACT that 'enough fraud was discovered to overturn the 'result'? - do we do that in murder allegations?"
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
18057 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 10:53 am to
quote:

I’ve never witnessed this type of longevity by one individual to constantly hit back and be found clean.


Well his name is TRUMP and he just keeps on trumping them.

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25223 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 10:58 am to
Trump is not an ideologue. He's a problem solver who is addressing many of the problems that left/liberals have created through government.
Posted by tiger789
on the bayou
Member since Dec 2008
2113 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 11:08 am to
quote:

The election was fraudulent and was stolen.













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