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re: I did a slightly deeper analyses on the presidential election. Trump wins 294-244.

Posted on 7/29/20 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 1:42 pm to
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If Trump doesn’t win Minnesota after the city council abolished the police department, that would be a humiliating loss for him. He only lost by 10,000 votes last time, and I can’t imagine that he can’t get at least another 10,000 voters from all the shite going down in that state.



Trump lost Minnesota by 1.5% in 2016. I'm projecting him to lose by 0.6% in 2020. So Trump does close the gap but not enough.

Now if I'm the Trump campaign I'm looking at Minnesota as a place that some EVs can be flipped by investing a lot of money.
This post was edited on 7/29/20 at 2:28 pm
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 1:46 pm to
I still don't see how Biden loses Pennsylvania. Luckily he can win Pennsylvania and Trump still wins.
Posted by Smedium27
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 1:47 pm to
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Do you think libertarians are going to vote for Kamala Harris?


Libertarians are not voting for anyone that increases government spending. Which is 99% of Biden's policy. Especially now that democrats are not absorbing legalizing marijuana.

Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 1:48 pm to
[img]You think these guys will get the same 2016 turnout?[/img]

Cohen, and his mentor Vermin Supreme, have promised Free Ponies, Mandatory Tooth Brushing, Zombie Power, Killing Baby Hitler, Killing Baby Woodrow Wilson, and promoting anarchy.

Exciting times for Libertarian voters.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 1:50 pm to
The L party could steal more democrats with the LGBTQURS first out the gate on their platform.

She had clothes on so that is an improvement.

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I think Jill Stein hurt Hillary more so, no?

Posted by Smedium27
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 1:50 pm to
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The Libertarians had a MUCH more mainstream ticket in 2016 than 2020.


You may be right, however the trend of libertarians voters increases every presidential election. This year will be more simply based off that fact, also add in one candidate who is literally trying to promote policies that go completely against libertarian values
Posted by MsGarrison
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 1:51 pm to
You did this to fit YOUR wanted outcome
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 1:53 pm to
Even is more libertarians do turn out, the issue in 2016 was a small portion of registered GOP voters went with Johnson over Trump. Similar to OP, I don't see that happening again this time around. In fact, I could see more libertarians voting for Jo than they did Johnson, but I also see her having a smaller impact on the voters that are registered as Rep or Dem.
Posted by Smedium27
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 1:54 pm to
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The L party could steal more democrats with the LGBTQURS first out the gate on their platform.


I agree LGBTQ democrats might find Libertarians interesting, however if you are a modern democrat, human rights is the only thing attractive to the new democrat party voters

IMO

Democrats who vote for Libertarians = Economic Conservatives with liberal social views
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 1:56 pm to
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This year will be more simply based off that fact, also add in one candidate who is literally trying to promote policies that go completely against libertarian values


Which candidate is that? Certainly not Biden; his policies are very similar to JoJo:

Open Borders
Defund the Wall
Eliminate Trumps Trade Deals
Ship US jobs to China and Mexico
Regulations on Oil & Gas
Government subsidies to Solar and Wind
Posted by Smedium27
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:04 pm to
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Open Borders
Defund the Wall
Eliminate Trumps Trade Deals
Ship US jobs to China and Mexico
Regulations on Oil & Gas
Government subsidies to Solar and Wind


1) Open borders is actually beneficial for republicans since it solves the issue of illegals not paying taxes but receive full citizenship benefits. Also can increase wages being companies can not get away paying illegals less , under the table

2) Same answer as #1

3) A deal on what tax is paid for one country goes against libertarian ideal of Tax is theft.

4) No comment on "Ship US jobs to China and Mexico" since I do not see how a libertarian believes that. If you have a source let me know. My opinion it will increase domestic jobs since their will be less red tape on hiring process and more small business jobs, since more business will thrive with little or no tax burdens

5) Regulations on Oil & Gas is another odd one. She is pro expanding offshore drilling. also libertarians believe in NO REGULATION

6) Yet again this is a lie because Jo wants to get rid of all tax breaks. End all tax credits and subsidies to the solar and wind energy industry

Jo's policies



This post was edited on 7/29/20 at 2:08 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:05 pm to
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I'm assuming the the enthusiasm gap between Trump and Hillary in 2016 will be the same as 2020 between Trump and Biden and simply splitting mostly the Johnson and Stein vote in each state.

I hope the enthusiasm gap widens in favor of Trump but IDK how to model that. I guess I can figure it out but I'm not digging that deep because I just don't have the time. Additionally enthusiasm is fluid and changes day by day based on events.


I know you’re thinking logically, but thinking logically in an insane time I don’t think is going to be as accurate as it is normally. Going downtown and seeing your city look like East Berlin, I think most people think “frick the people that did this”. They look at these ruined cities and businesses with horror, and unless they’re fricking insane they know that Trump is not responsible for this. It’s local officials.

And here’s something I think the Democrats have greatly underestimated: religious people. Religious people have been cut off from their communities and mercilessly ridiculed and suppressed since March. Bill De Blasio banned protests in May (which he can’t do) and then changed his mind on a protest he liked. Earlier this month he said he was going to ban mass gatherings and religious events, but when asked about mass BLM protests, he said that was different since those actually had meaning. That is one of the most offensive things I’ve ever heard, and I’m not even that religious. Who the frick are you, Bill De Blasio, to tell me where I get meaning in my life? How about the people that wanted to say goodbye to their mothers and wives in the hospital but weren’t allowed to do so? What about people who want to give their loved ones a funeral? No meaning in that, you fricking cocksucker? That is incredibly offensive even to hardcore atheists like Sam Harris.

And then there’s everyone being terrified of the Left, that they will come burn their homes down or get them fired from their jobs. These extremists that want this future are only like 15% of the country. The other 85% aren’t going to tolerate being fired over saying you shouldn’t chemically castrate a 10 year old.

And then there’s gun control. Biden has said he’s going to put fricking Beto in charge of his guns program. Kamala Harris has said she’d sign an unconstitutional executive order basically repealing the 2nd Amendment. When Biden himself correctly called her out on that being unconstitutional and that she couldn’t do that without a constitutional amendment, she enthusiastically and dictatorially says "I would just say, 'Hey Joe, instead of saying, 'No we can't' let's say, 'Yes we can,'”. Look how much gun sales have gone up since the pandemic. Rational Democrats now understand the importance of the 2nd Amendment. That rhetoric is not going to fly in this election cycle, nor an election cycle for the next two decades.

Things going back to normal will be the only thing on people’s minds going into November. Are Biden and Kamala going to do that? I’d say frick no. People have got to decide whether what is going on throughout the country is completely unacceptable (which is my bet) or if we surrender to terrorists and live our lives on eggshells from this day forward. I think people can see spoiled brats for who they are and will want to crush them in any way they can.

So I think you can throw out past logic when things weren’t so extreme and start thinking rational answers to extremely insane and horrifying questions. It’s logical insanity that has been thrust upon us. You intelligently defend your positions, but we’re for all intents and purposes in a civil war right now.
This post was edited on 7/29/20 at 2:10 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:11 pm to
she is for dismantling the dept of education so dems won't like her. the only R's she could get would not go for pulling all troops out overseas; as they are mostly never Trumper neocon warhawks that don't think a third party person is worth their vote.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:15 pm to
I do t think she's pulling anything because she isn't even remotely getting the attention Gary/Weld got in 2016 and Gary had way more of a name after running in 2012.

Posted by RidiculousHype
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:16 pm to
There's a lot of people quietly watching all this BS from their couch. The question is, are they going to vote Trump or are they just snoozing?
Posted by sms151t
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:23 pm to
The silent majority always wins an election. I don't know who the majority is for this time, but it will determine the winner.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:25 pm to
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Open borders is actually beneficial for republicans since it solves the issue of illegals not paying taxes but receive full citizenship benefits. Also can increase wages being companies can not get away paying illegals less , under the table


Same promise Democrats have been making for decades. Meanwhile, US manufacturing jobs have been leaving for China and Mexico. I mean, really, have you been living under a rock?

Trumps "Magic Wand" of Trade Policies and Deregulation
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:29 pm to
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So I think you can throw out past logic when things weren’t so extreme and start thinking rational answers to extremely insane and horrifying questions. It’s logical insanity that has been thrust upon us. You intelligently defend your positions, but we’re for all intents and purposes in a civil war right now.


I can't disagree.
Posted by Parscale
Member since Jun 2020
128 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:33 pm to
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The current voter registration roles in Florida look like this: 4,892,347 Republican 5,142,554 Democrat 168,865 Minor Party 3,605,685 Indy


Very interesting post. You say that Republicans are catching up to the Dems regarding voter registration. Do you happen to have the voter registration numbers from 2016? I’d be interested in seeing how much ground the GOP is gaining since the last Presidential election.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
17614 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:34 pm to
Trump is winning MN. They’ve had enough.
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