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re: I can't understand why the incident in Waco (David Koresh) is a tragedy

Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:07 am to
Posted by SherluckHomey
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:07 am to
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Thank you for reading the OP. You maybe the only one.



So my argument centers around the actions of the FBI and ATF. It's in this point that people label this event as a tragedy and I disagree. The FBI didn't cause any of these events to happen. This was a suicide by willing participant.

If one can isolate the murder of the children from the overall events then I have a hard time labeling the suicide of a criminal as tragic.
Posted by SherluckHomey
Member since Jan 2017
177 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:08 am to
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It doesn't excuse the deaths of the children - largely the responsibility of the federal authorities


I'm not sure I'd put the death of the children at the feet of the authorities.

The parents burned their kids. There's no two ways about that.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:09 am to
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So would the death of 76 Natzis be considered tragic? What a simple argument you have put forth.


Shitty troll status confirmed.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89486 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:09 am to
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But weren't federal officers killed in that initial raid?


ATF agents Steve Willis, Robert Williams, Todd McKeehan, and Conway Charles LeBleu.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54203 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:10 am to
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WILL SOMEONE READ THE OP?!


Yeah, I have three times. It's stupid. You say the death of the children was tragic. That should be the end of the argument right there. If it was tragic for the children then how in the hell can you lament that the raid wasn't a tragedy. Go to class.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51365 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:11 am to
State investigated the child abuse charges and found no evidence. Child abuse is a state, not federal matter.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45171 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:12 am to
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I understand how it was mishandled but why is it considered a tragedy?

Because a bunch of children died a fiery death you stupid frick.

Are you for real?
Posted by SherluckHomey
Member since Jan 2017
177 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:12 am to
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Largely unproven ones. Do you believe in any sort of due process


If you keep throwing around rediculous accusations then it will be hard to converse with you.

Testimony of multiple Branch Divideon members confirms the age of the girl's Koresh was banging. Since he decided to burn rather than face any type of due process we have to go on testimony and physical evidence. ( the physical evidence being the fact that underage girls gave birth to children)

Maybe you consider that to be largely unproven but I consider that to be damning evidence.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27817 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:13 am to
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I'm not sure I'd put the death of the children at the feet of the authorities.


Then your comprehension skills are lacking. At best they forced a suicidal maniac to act. Tragedy.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
8593 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:14 am to
This alter is taking a shot at religion in general. If you read his posts you'll catch the undertones.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89486 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:15 am to
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I'm not sure I'd put the death of the children at the feet of the authorities.


I mean, that guy killed himself in Baltimore and rioters burned part of the city down blaming the authorities.

quote:

The parents burned their kids.


While in a months long siege precipitated by hamfisted federal action. You break it? You bought it. There is some dispute as to whether or not the gas used accelerated the fire and destruction and that other munitions used may have contributed to the fire and smoke.

Now, I'm somewhat confident that the some of the Davidian adults set fires, but that doesn't mean that every adult - the children's mothers for example - were complicit in their own deaths. You're aware there were a number of survivors of the fire, are you not?
Posted by SherluckHomey
Member since Jan 2017
177 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:15 am to
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State investigated the child abuse charges and found no evidence. Child abuse is a state, not federal matter.


Testimony of former members indicated Koresh had sex with girls as young as 12
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48865 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:16 am to
I would always consider the burning alive of children by jackbooted thugs a tragedy.

I would also like to welcome a new shill to the board, cuck bitch.
Posted by SherluckHomey
Member since Jan 2017
177 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:17 am to
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Then your comprehension skills are lacking. At best they forced a suicidal maniac to act. Tragedy.


Nah. If someone is being arrested and shoots himself in the head then I'm not blaming the cop trying to arrest the guy. But maybe you do
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 6:18 am
Posted by SherluckHomey
Member since Jan 2017
177 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:17 am to
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Strannix


Melt away
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45171 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:18 am to
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If one can isolate the murder of the children from the overall events then I have a hard time labeling the suicide of a criminal as tragic

Motherfricker
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89486 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:18 am to
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Testimony of former members indicated Koresh had sex with girls as young as 12


The ATF was not there for this issue. They were there for the guns.

This was also a subtle message to Americans - "Don't arm up and organize together, or we'll come get you."
Posted by SherluckHomey
Member since Jan 2017
177 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:19 am to
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This alter is taking a shot at religion in general. If you read his posts you'll catch the undertones.


No offense, but you're an idiot.


No offense.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48865 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:19 am to
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Since he decided to burn rather than face any type of due process w


If the killer Reno was so concerned with due process why didn't try arrest Koresh alone in town instead of playing siege with tanks and machine guns?
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:19 am to
12 of the deaths were kids. Most under age 4. They did not "join" a cult.
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