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re: I can't believe the "No evidence" narrative is actually working on people

Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:32 am to
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68387 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:32 am to
Yeah, this is basically how it works. MSM crowns themselves the gatekeeper of truth and you're a weirdo if you don't believe them.
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Last week Noam Dworman of Comedy Cellar USA, on his Live at the Table podcast, interviewed Washington Post columnist Philip Bump. It was a debate, with Bump invited because he’s “most associated with pouring cold water on the Hunter Biden story,” as Noam put it.

The show went viral as Bump, semi-reprising the performance of Russiagate champion and Guardian reporter Luke Harding walking on an interview with Aaron Mate, left abruptly after conceding Hunter’s line, “unlike pop, I won’t make you give me half your salary” was evidence. To be fair the show had run long, but Bump insisted earlier that there was “no evidence” of wrongdoing on Joe Biden’s part, so it wasn’t a timely exit — not that I’m unfamiliar with interviews that go sideways.

I know Noam and my name got dragged into this somewhat absurdly (Bump said I had “an agenda,” as Noam brought up tapes between Petro Poroshenko and Joe Biden I’d referenced), but didn’t want to say anything. Then a subsequent show also went sideways, for much the same reason. More on that in a moment. Back to Bump v. Dworman:

Many exchanges in the podcast stand out, not in a good way. Bump repeatedly tells Noam his problem is that he’s not accepting his, Bump’s, versions of things. At about the 56-minute mark, Bump chides Noam for bringing up things that have been “debunked.” When Noam asks, “What’s been debunked?” Bump says, “I’ve written about this!” He adds, “It’s been debunked in the sense that I’ve already addressed this, and presented the counter-arguments to it.”

At about 1:05 in the video above, Noam brings up “the issue of the press. The press actually bothers me more than Joe Biden…” To which Bump interjects [emphasis mine]: “But you don’t listen to the press. I’m sitting here and telling you you’re wrong about these things and you don’t listen.” About five minutes later Noam again brings up media, and Bump says, “But again, you’re attacking the press, because you refuse to listen to what we’re saying.”

Inside the Blue Bubble.
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
5015 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:41 am to
shouldn't be surprising, far too many people believe what they're told and take everything at face value ....like good little sheep
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37314 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:44 am to
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Many exchanges in the podcast stand out, not in a good way. Bump repeatedly tells Noam his problem is that he’s not accepting his, Bump’s, versions of things. At about the 56-minute mark, Bump chides Noam for bringing up things that have been “debunked.” When Noam asks, “What’s been debunked?” Bump says, “I’ve written about this!” He adds, “It’s been debunked in the sense that I’ve already addressed this, and presented the counter-arguments to it.”

At about 1:05 in the video above, Noam brings up “the issue of the press. The press actually bothers me more than Joe Biden…” To which Bump interjects [emphasis mine]: “But you don’t listen to the press. I’m sitting here and telling you you’re wrong about these things and you don’t listen.” About five minutes later Noam again brings up media, and Bump says, “But again, you’re attacking the press, because you refuse to listen to what we’re saying.

No, Phil. Its that no one believes that what you are saying is the full, objective story.
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
2304 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:51 am to
There are several idiots on this who believe Trump is guilty of paper crimes while Biden makes millions off the government but is innocent. Who knew a senator’s pay was so substantial? The level of naïve stupidity and party loyalty over the nation is astounding
Posted by RedCali714
Costa Mesa, California
Member since Oct 2022
2027 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:52 am to
It truly is. If you are a person who only watches major network news and takes everything they say as fact, you are convinced there is NO evidence of wrongdoing by Biden. It is fricking incredible. That goes double for people who watch MSNBC. I had to endure about 20 minutes of Morning Melt today. Joe Scarborough is the biggest pussy in the history of punditry. What a bitch that guy is.
Posted by cuyahoga tiger
NE Ohio via Tangipahoa
Member since Nov 2011
6162 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:53 am to
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39% of the us population are idiots.


you give us way too much credit...it's much more than that
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62079 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:53 am to
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I can't believe the "No evidence" narrative is actually working on people



You must have never seen clips of guys with microphones asking citizens the most basic questions. Citizens are largely politically illiterate.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77634 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:56 am to
They're going to say that there's no evidence even when it's obvious to the point that even Ray Charles could see it. Please don't act like you're shocked by this.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138899 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:58 am to
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I can't believe the "No evidence" narrative is actually working on people
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23047 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:58 am to
Whomever controls information controls power.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65819 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:59 am to
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I can't believe the "No evidence" narrative is actually working on people


People are stupid. Even though he didn't win, lots of people still actually voted for Biden.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20704 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:59 am to
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That entire wing of the GOP has zero credibility
They are there to do what the powers that be wanted them there for. They are there to make a portion of the GOP registered people feel like they (we) have representation. The whole thing has been secretly built up against us.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109264 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:00 am to
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Citizens are largely politically illiterate.


But they know everything the Kardashians are doing.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82365 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:20 am to
Scott Adams nicely captures the goalpost moving steps:


Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79465 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:26 am to
You can’t believe and we have people in this country that actually believe the election was fair and fraud free…
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46366 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:28 am to
I’m surprised that you’re surprised
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47131 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:31 am to
Testimony by Archer & Bobulinsky was far more than what got Trump in that bogus sex assault case.

Posted by rented mule
Member since Sep 2005
2780 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:32 am to
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If this wasn’t the Coo de Gra, nothing is


I'm sorry, what???
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47131 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:34 am to
Coo coo ka choo?

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26494 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:34 am to
Only the groomer cheerleaders and those who still watch the MSM are fooled.
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