re: I asked ChatGPT who are the Great Houses in political board history and who is allied

I suck at this but I inquired...

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In the TigerDroppings Political Talk forum, users frequently criticize Senate Majority Leader John Thune by calling him a "human Ken doll" (or similar), often tying it to "Wednesday" (a poster who popularized or trademarked the nickname in their eyes).

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Key Example (Recent Thread, May 20, 2026)In the thread "Thune and his buds are upset about Paxton endorsement from POTUS Trump" (started around May 20, 2026):

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Poster cajunangelle wrote: "The human ken doll trademarked by the great Wednesday...should be recalled. Can we start a recall petition?"

This matches the "Thune the human Ken doll" reference closely, with the Wednesday attribution. The thread is full of anti-Thune (and anti-establishment GOP) sentiment around Trump endorsements, the SAVE Act, etc.

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Another Example (Older "Hump Day Wednesday" Tie-In)In a November 2025 thread "Thune is willing to give the Dems whatever they want after reopening": A poster added: "Adding to Wednesday's Ken doll theme..." right in the context of criticizing Thune.

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These nicknames are common in the Political Talk section for Thune (and sometimes other polished GOP figures). "Wednesday" appears to be a specific poster who popularized the "human Ken doll" label for Thune.

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Someone do the house of thrones human ken doll with and without a hump house of Wednesday. TIA

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“He is right wing but opposed to the populist movement which has taken over the conservative movement.”(quotePen).

Could you explain the difference between those two, Pen? Not that the parsing of words means much in the real life political dynamics.

If Populists support Conservatism, which I assume to be the Constitutional Republic form of government, but SFP’s arguments undermine and/or impede the defense and promotion of such, then how would SF’s arguments be defined as “Right Wing?

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I apologize in advance for a lack of brevity, but we must go back to the early stages to understand this.

Before the rise of the modern liberal democracy western nations were governed by aristocracies, which were a tiny percentage of the population. The rest were forced to live as the aristocrats mandated.

Western nations began to emphasize the rights of individuals. It started thousands of years before but paused during the dark ages. It was revivified in acts like Maga Carta and the revolution led by Cromwell. These events shifted power from the elites to individuals. And each act of this sort widened the circle of individuals thus empowered.

Eventually we got the modern western liberal democracy. The socialists want to shift power back toward the elites. That’s not what they intend, but that is the natural result of nationalizing industries and raising taxes. Populism is a right wing reaction to that. But populism means to take the power that the leftist wanted, to equalize income disparities, and use it to protect other interests.

Both populism and socialism shift power from individuals toward the government, just for different purposes.

This has been pretty interesting to read through on some of the “seasoned vets” of the board.

Have had (and still have) some pure, fundamental disagreements with some of the named board “characters” on any variety of topics but I’m glad I stumbled upon this little online community a few years ago and I can appreciate most anyone who cares enough to care about politics and how it shapes our country (too many people don’t care one way or the other in my estimation).

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The socialists want to shift power back toward the elites.

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Trump hangs out with technocrats and invites the wealthiest Americans to spend time with him. He’s not the only politician to do this (they all want to) so it’s not a condemnation of him specifically, but he happens to be the sitting POTUS and darling of the board.

Framing the worship of money and cozying up to elites as a socialist behavior attempting to undermine Western democracy is insanely warped and ludicrous.

“ But populism means to take the power that the leftist wanted, to equalize income disparities, and use it to protect other interests.

Both populism and socialism shift power from individuals toward the government, just for different purposes.”(quote Pen).

Thanks, P.

So, I am a Populist? Being one who believes that given the current dynamics wherein - via a Democratic (unverifiable) vote which is inclusive of the immigrant people - to give Government the power to “fundamentally change “ into an essentially authoritarian Fascist/Socialist version, that to reject such a Democratic majority will labels me as an immoral and/or a selfish Capitalist individual? And as such an enemy of the (fundamentally changed) State? Well, that is serious stuff.

This brings me to the conclusion that we are by default going to become a “Dictatorship” ruled by either a majority (“mob rule”) who vote productive people’s fruits of their labors into the Collective DEI based pockets of all, regardless of their contribution or even immoral and socially destructive behavior…or a Populist “Dictatorship” of a minority who claim that their Rights come from God. And opposed to any majority vote.

I think our Constitutional Republic has become obsolete, in that a vast majority of the people now value State-based subsidization over personal Freedom with Individual Rights coming from God. And personal responsibility to both police their own behavior and WORK for their bodily needs and spiritual dreams. And that they will vote their Freedom away with the (false?) hope for an assumed State-based prosperity. Like the proverbial dog with a bone that sees its reflection in the water, and grabs at the reflection. Losing both its bone and the dream of more bones for security, more affluence or greed’s sake. (I know that Cubs will offer the empathetic/sympathetic version of merciful State action. Of the which I do not oppose as long as State-based QUALIFIERS come with State-based Subsidies. No loving parent would offer unqualified mercy to a child whose actions were socially irresponsible, if not socially and personally poisonous).

Your explanation cements my long held opinion that the above dynamic is indeed true. And that talk and voting cannot solve a critical and polar foundational issue which will determine who this Nation and its people will become in the future.

Back when my group of searchers used to get together for visionary sessions of exploring life’s spiritual and worldly potential, we sometimes included and employed the use of hallucinogenic mechanisms. There was a a realization and saying that “there is a BIG difference between talking about ‘tripping’ and being ‘there’. This is what I both respect and fear as an inevitable confrontation draws near. I have good and beloved friends of all ideologies, colors and sexual eccentricities which I know will be caught up into what will be an instinctual and very painful dog fight. Minus my Faith my realist fears would affect my spirit and I would have zero hope for a near or eternal future.

Okay. Faith it is. Thank you Jesus. And the Holy Spirit of Truth. And The Father for pulling the trigger on Creation/Me/Us, for the sake of Love. Even given the problematic aspects and pain therein. It’s a worthy challenge and test, and adventure. Who would expect less of an infinite Intellect that is infinitely Loving.

Lord come quickly.

Utter bullshite. SFP has never read any appreciable political philosophy, nor is he an adherent of any consistent political philosophy other than his own brand of self- congratulatory conventional wisdom. That doesn’t make his observations wrong ( he’s frequently correct and I agree with him pretty frequently) but neither does it make him an ideological heir to 18th century classical liberalism. Thats patently absurd.

* always wanted to say patently absurd, lol.

Much love, friend. Headed to church now. Really just a precursor to a great NOLA lunch, lol.

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Framing the worship of money and cozying up to elites as a socialist behavior attempting to undermine Western democracy is insanely warped and ludicrous.

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I never framed it that way, so I don’t understand your angle. Socialists intend to replace individual agency with centralized planning. That is beyond dispute. Those who do the centralized planning are the elites. In theory they will do what is best for everyone. In practice they do what is best for themselves, their families and their friends.

You point out that the Trumps do this. I agree. So did the Bidens. What is remarkable about leftists, such as you, is that you recognize this flaw in human nature, but it never occurs to you that giving them more power, by making government bigger, is a terrible idea.

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This brings me to the conclusion that we are by default going to become a “Dictatorship” ruled by either a majority (“mob rule”) who vote productive people’s fruits of their labors into the Collective DEI based pockets of all, regardless of their contribution or even immoral and socially destructive behavior…or a Populist “Dictatorship” of a minority who claim that their Rights come from God. And opposed to any majority vote.

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I hope you are wrong, but I fear the same thing. And if it comes to that I would rather a right-wing, fascist government than a left-wing socialist one. In part because the left-wing one will eventually turn into a right-wing one, and that transition will be yet another painful episode.

But history shows us there is hope. Imagine if the socialists already had control. Imagine they had already nationalized the oil and gas, coal, automotive, and several other heavy industries. Well, that was the case in the UK in the late 1940’s. Yet they democratically turned away from that.

I think that individual freedom, and the free market, has more runway in the US, and we won’t dive into socialism for a few more decades at least.

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Penultimate is second to last.

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It’s “second to last” not “second to least”. It In a series of 100, the second and the 99th could be called penultimate.