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re: Hydroxychloroquine showed no benefit, more deaths
Posted on 4/21/20 at 5:06 pm to Man With A Plan
Posted on 4/21/20 at 5:06 pm to Man With A Plan
Bull shite study. There's no way it caused more deaths given the study boom Brazil showed it greatly reduced hospitalization.
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Posted on 4/21/20 at 5:06 pm to Man With A Plan
This study has been debunked already. It only looked at patients who were already in critical condition. The treatment works better if you get it before you are in ICU. It helps prevent the severe symptoms. Once you get the severe symptoms the damage is already done
Posted on 4/21/20 at 5:06 pm to Man With A Plan
anecdotal
Posted on 4/21/20 at 5:08 pm to LSU Tiger Bob
Absolutely anecdotal. Need prospective data.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 5:08 pm to OchoDedos
This study also doesn't say what was the criteria for giving HCQ and AZith. Was it only given to patients who were in severe decline and this was last recourse. If that was the case the 28% death might be expected and low values on standard care would also be expected.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 5:10 pm to the808bass
Which is really strange that they’d be submitting it to the NEJM.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 5:11 pm to Man With A Plan
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The study found it leads to more deaths,
only a libtard would say or believe this
give us a break man
numerous doctors say it worked for their patients...
it depends on when the drug is given...
if you are short breathe, you have big problems...
literally, I don't believe this study....
why would doctors like on youtube?
give me a reason
Posted on 4/21/20 at 5:18 pm to auggie
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Something tells me, that most of these patients were already in very bad shape to begin with, else they wouldn't be in the VA Hospital.
I only know the stats for one VA hospital, Charleston, SC. We’ve had ONE patient positive for COVID-19, and that was a psychiatric inpatient. Wasn’t even there because of the Kung Flu.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 5:20 pm to deltaland
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This study has been debunked already. It only looked at patients who were already in critical condition. The treatment works better if you get it before you are in ICU. It helps prevent the severe symptoms. Once you get the severe symptoms the damage is already done
About as useful as giving speech therapy to a brain dead North Korean dictator.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 5:21 pm to Man With A Plan
It is one study, you need to wait on pronouncement either way. An analysis of the background of the patients that died. Everyone will need to wait for the clinical study.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 5:22 pm to Man With A Plan
quote:yeah I’m going to go ahead and call bullshite on that. Who is funding this study
The study found it leads to more deaths, so I would try something else.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 5:23 pm to Adam Banks
Very high external validity. Treat all patients with covid19 symptoms and 4% fewer will need hospitalization. Yes I think it’s better.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 5:23 pm to Adam Banks
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Well from what I’ve read the concerning side affect (cardiac) of both those meds is additive so it would seem like If given to the wrong type of patient then it’s not a harmless drug
It doesnt say they were additive
It says more than twice the people taking just hydro died
And it says twice the people taking just a Z-Pac died
Posted on 4/21/20 at 5:23 pm to Man With A Plan
Yet other studies show it is effective. Aren't Italy and France using it?
Posted on 4/21/20 at 5:23 pm to Man With A Plan
Posted on 4/21/20 at 5:24 pm to Man With A Plan
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The study found it leads to more deaths, so I would try something else.
Sure it did dummy
Posted on 4/21/20 at 5:25 pm to Pelican fan99
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WHO is funding this study
Very possibly
Posted on 4/21/20 at 5:26 pm to SDVTiger
“Study finds more patients that had a defibrillator used on them died than patients who did not.”
Coming soon to a journal near you.
Coming soon to a journal near you.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 5:29 pm to PsychTiger
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I only know the stats for one VA hospital, Charleston, SC. We’ve had ONE patient positive for COVID-19, and that was a psychiatric inpatient. Wasn’t even there because of the Kung Flu.
I know a woman who works at The VA Hospital in Alexander City, Al.
According to her, they've got a few cases, and had a couple of deaths.
I don't know if I really believer though.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 5:33 pm to Man With A Plan
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The study found it leads to more deaths, so I would try something else.
If it leads to more deaths, certainly we should try something else.
But, I don't blame doctors who were prescribing it based on the evidence that existed.
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