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re: Hunter Biden Lawyers Impersonating Congressional Staff to Remove Derogatory Evidence

Posted on 7/27/23 at 10:36 am to
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167512 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 10:36 am to
Some of the Meatball lovers have called me a democrat, groomer, establishment lover, flamed personally that I was a wino alchie-Instead of presenting counter discussion.

I will survive, get some thick-skin. You indeed appear to play esquire for the democrats. Own it.
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But can you find even one where I was not insulted first?

The admins obviously do nothing about it.

In your mind, how many times must I tolerate being called a ”pedophile” or some such nonsense without consequence, before I am allowed to respond?
To be fair: you play lawyer for a certain side and are contrarian leaning left. But no one cares.

You do tend to steer from flaming personally. When it gets real heated return fire. But try to ignore the flames.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47578 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 10:54 am to
bullshite.

You shill for the left and call people who disagree with you stupid. All while pretending to be the “pure” conservative. Just own your politics and people might not be so disgusted with these games you play.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 11:02 am to
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You shill for the left and call people who disagree with you stupid
Not at all. For example, BBonds and I disagree rather often, and I have never called him “stupid.” I reserve that for people who ARE objectively … slow.
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while pretending to be the “pure” conservative.
AGAIN, I have NEVER described myself as “conservative.”. Not once. Link it, if you claim otherwise.

Because the term has become meaningless as too many disparate ideologies have tried to claim it for themselves.
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Just own your politics and people might not be so disgusted with these games you play.
Some are confused by viewpoints that do not fit on a bumper sticker.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143823 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 11:04 am to
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AggieHank86


Do you ever wonder why nobody calls you “Objective Hank”?

Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 11:10 am to
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Do you ever wonder why nobody calls you “Objective Hank”?
Probably because the bulk of this forum thinks that “Reactionary Far Right” is “objective” and “mainstream.”
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 11:23 am to
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But can you find even one where I was not insulted first?


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So hank is parroting the official "misunderstanding" line from the crackheads lawyers and calling the clerk of court a liar. That seems about right for this middle of the road libertarian


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Don't be a pussy


Quite a high horse you're sitting on counselor
This post was edited on 7/27/23 at 11:27 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 11:33 am to
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Except, internal (now published) correspondences between the attorneys indicate the Clerk was under the misimpression at the time of the fact, not after the fact.

That doesn't really change anything. Under this hypo, the clerk makes a mistake, realizes it, and then when contacted, claims the one side misrepresented themselves. The correspondence from the attorneys would reflect this set of events (which it does).

I don't think that is what happened, but I was just saying that it IS THEORETICALLY possible the clerk is the person being deceitful here covering his/her arse.

The biggest piece of information that I think makes the Biden attorneys look culpable is that once they were notified of the document removal (which they would have immediately via ECF email), they didn't alert everyone to the issue. If I spoke to a clerk/judge and they took actions that I didn't request, I would IMMEDIATELY notify EVERYONE that a mistake was made, to avoid this very situation. It's better to look like a fool than an evil actor in these scenarios, even if it's not your fault. You fall on that sword b/c the allegations of this sort of impropriety alone are career enders (and possible license yankers)
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138978 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 12:16 pm to
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The biggest piece of information that I think makes the Biden attorneys look culpable is that once they were notified of the document removal (which they would have immediately via ECF email), they didn't alert everyone to the issue.
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Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 12:18 pm to
Well yeah the filing of that information should result in sanctions for the GOP attorney as well.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 12:28 pm to
Weird situation. Clark was at Latham when he started representing Hunter. He left and founded his own firm, taking Hunter with him, but kept Latham onboard as co-counsel for the defense?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35929 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 12:42 pm to
Here's what happened: Fast talking attorney calls clerk and gives impression she works for Kittia without actually saying it while giving herself just enough plausible deniability to blame it on "miscommunication" if it's eventually brought to light.

Sorry but if your immediate excuse is to try and smooth things over by suggesting "miscommunication" instead of presenting a vigorous denial you are 100% covering for something.
This post was edited on 7/27/23 at 12:44 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138978 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 1:03 pm to
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yeah the filing of that information should result in sanctions for the GOP attorney
What information?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 1:11 pm to
There was personal information that was attached as an exhibit, tax information, part of social security number, etc. Stuff that you can't file.

The firm should have filed a motion to seal the record (or that exhibit) and not engaged in likely misrepresentation to the clerk, BUT their underlying argument was solid.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138978 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 1:16 pm to
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There was personal information that was attached as an exhibit
I know that was the claim by Hunter's team. Was it verified?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 1:20 pm to
I don't think that fact is in dispute, just the methods used to address it.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 1:22 pm to
I keep coming back to the original amicus filing. Apparently GOP Counsel told Clark in advance that they would be filing these materials, and Clark asked that they do so under seal. They declined.

If their REAL goal had been ”informing the judge,” they would not have hesitated to do that. The reasonable interpretation for filing the materials UNsealed is that the goal was to see the materials enter the “public. sphere.”. They do not care about Hunter. They were taking a shot at his father.

On the other hand, Clark WAS warned. He should have had a Motion to Seal sitting on “Go,” ready to file on about ten seconds notice.
This post was edited on 7/27/23 at 1:35 pm
Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
8565 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 1:31 pm to
Yeah, and Hunter will provide cocktails and “blow”. Then write it off on his amended tax returns.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138978 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 1:48 pm to
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I don't think that fact is in dispute
In that case I see your point.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90737 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 1:58 pm to
Or lack of trust with the legal system drove the idea to get this into public view.

Who's to say the scam agreement wouldn't have been accepted as is if it weren't for the public viewing.
Posted by northLAgoomba
Grand Cane, LA
Member since Nov 2009
3979 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 2:38 pm to
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Jessica Bengels

She should be suspended immediately from practicing law and ultimately disbarred.
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