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re: Hungary is not paying fine for refusing to take in immigrants
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:36 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:36 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Words like sovereign and nationalism cause soy boys to piss their pants. Crazy how mass authoritarian collectivism has taken over the world wide left.
Funny how those are good words when it comes to Ukraine.
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Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:37 am to MemphisGuy
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SFP to Rosa Parks: Sorry, lady, you need to go to the back of the bus. It's the law. If you don't like it, you are free to move or lobby to change the law. Until then, get to the back of the bus.
The irony of that example and the laws that were passed in response
But yes, she was a part of the movement to enact change.
However, she could not withdraw like Hungary can. Also, Hungary doesn't seem to really be promoting changing the law, just ignoring the law they don't like.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:38 am to SlowFlowPro
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But I would think that this is "clearly " the opposite. Hungary is saying we'd rather have our sovereignty than your (EU) "benefits"
Then why not leave?
I think that is the ultimate outcome, but it's not a case of packing up the camping gear heading home.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:38 am to Bunk Moreland
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Funny how those are good words when it comes to Ukraine.
If Ukraine were sovereign, we wouldnt be calling their shots.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:39 am to Bunk Moreland
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Funny how those are good words when it comes to Ukraine.
Well with Ukraine, it's the sovereignty to join an international organization, if we want to go full circle.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:42 am to SlowFlowPro
You don’t find it interesting or relevant to the discussion that the EU is coming down hard on Hungary?
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:45 am to SuperOcean
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I think that is the ultimate outcome, but it's not a case of packing up the camping gear heading home.
The heavy handedness over the immigration issue may eventually force more than one actor to push back.
I've never seen anything like the current invisible hand pushing these immigrants into Western countries. Someone is getting paid.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:45 am to NIH
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You don’t find it interesting or relevant to the discussion that the EU is coming down hard on Hungary?
They're coming down on Hungary for years of ignoring their regulations. It's pretty standard escalatory behavior by a regulating body. First there is a warning, then a fine, and then there will be more punitive measures.
What I don't care about in this discussion is why they created those regulations.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:47 am to SlowFlowPro
In other words, that discussion is something you’d rather not comment on (for obvious reasons).
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:49 am to NIH
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In other words, that discussion is something you’d rather not comment on (for obvious reasons).
It has no place in the discussion
Whether its a globalist conspiracy, the jews, anti-Eastern European bias, guilt for European empire, anti-Trumpism, etc. it's irrelevant.
It would just create diversions, which seems to be what people REALLY want to discuss. The "Start Topic" button is right there to create that thread.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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I never made a subjective evaluation that said anything was "right" in this discussion.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:49 am to MemphisGuy
I haven't.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:51 am to SlowFlowPro
You didn’t start this thread. Now you’re the moderator of thread content?
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:52 am to SlowFlowPro
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It has no place in the discussion
It really bothers you when you cant control threads other people make. Your narcissism is raging today.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:52 am to NIH
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Now you’re the moderator of thread content?
I'm the moderator of my responses and my role in permitting diversionary discussions.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:52 am to Proximo
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Your idea of costs of membership is accepting African terrorists who will rape and torment citizens
No, that’s not SFP’s idea of the cost of membership; it IS the cost of membership. SFP is just pointing out that undeniable fact. He never made a comment on whether he thinks Hungary should pull out or not.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:53 am to Penrod
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No, that’s not SFP’s idea of the cost of membership; it IS the cost of membership. SFP is just pointing out that undeniable fact. He never made a comment on whether he thinks Hungary should pull out or not.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:57 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
The company I work for is contracted by a major company out of Debrecen. We work directly with them out of Budapest. I was there 2 years ago. They are incredibly patriotic and will not bend the knee to the immigration mandates, even if it means losing membership and benefits. Budapest is by far the most EU friendly city there. Majority of the rest of the country can't stand the EU. Hungary holds all the cards here. EU can't and will not kick them out. Hungary is crucial to Eastern Euro relations, particularly Serbia, Romania and Bulgaria. Poland will never stop business with Hungary, who are vital to the Hungarian economy.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:22 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
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It's prompted Brussels to send a second payment request and it's set the stage for an impending head-on clash if Hungary doesn't pay up by the final deadline on 17 September.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:31 pm to Cenlabration
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Budapest is by far the most EU friendly city there. Majority of the rest of the country can't stand the EU.
I am shocked that Hungary is just like everywhere else
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