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re: How would the total elimination of federal income taxes change your life ?

Posted on 1/20/25 at 9:50 pm to
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 9:50 pm to
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Well the price of everything you will buy will go up 20 to 30 percent. I'm not sure you will like no income tax as you think.
imagine simping for income taxes

Get a fricking job bum
This post was edited on 1/20/25 at 9:51 pm
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 9:52 pm to
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33408 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 9:52 pm to
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For the 97th time consumption taxes are regressive

Who the frick cares? So what if it brings in less money for the gov to spend? Small govt people should be all over that
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
19384 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 9:53 pm to
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10674 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 9:54 pm to
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consumption taxes are regressive


No, they are exactly the same for everyone. Simply not being "progressive." does not make them "regressive."

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and disproportionately harm the poor.


So?

The fact that the government currently takes a huge chunk of the money that I earned and uses part of it to give to poor people to buy soda and junk food disproportionately harms me. Because then I have to pay for those same people's Obamacare premiums and deductibles once they spend my money to give themselves diabetes.

I'd like to not be the one disproportionately harmed for once in my adult life.

P.S. It's not hard at all to correct for what you're whining about. Just don't tax certain baseline goods and services. But you knew that already.

This post was edited on 1/20/25 at 9:55 pm
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
12487 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 9:54 pm to
Atleast I can make that decision. Also maybe politicians might think before giving foreign countries money.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
19384 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 9:55 pm to
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Explain it like they’re 5 years old


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Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 9:56 pm to
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imagine simping for income taxes


I'm for paying the least amount of tax.

As Louisianans, you guys should realize that you just voted yourselves a net tax increase with the shite to a higher consumption tax.

We see Louisiana as a test case and we see people bitching and moaning already about a 10% tax...

Taxes are a part of living in society.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26945 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 9:56 pm to
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P.S. It's not hard at all to correct for what you're whining about. Just don't tax certain baseline goods and services. But you knew that already.


But once you start playing that game you give the power right back to the government.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31331 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 9:56 pm to
I paid more in federal income taxes last year than I made the year I graduated college.

It would be a huge deal.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9583 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 9:57 pm to
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Small govt people should be all over that


MAGA is not small government or conservative though. GTFO.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84894 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 9:58 pm to
We see?

Who you blowing?
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9583 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 9:58 pm to
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P.S. It's not hard at all to correct for what you're whining about. Just don't tax certain baseline goods and services. But you knew that already.


Oh look another big brained LOLbertarian moron.

Let's burn it all down and then recreate the same systems with a differnet name. lmao.

Given enough time under your system you will end up with thousands of pages of exemptions.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35066 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 9:58 pm to
I hate to be the rain on the parade but I think salaries would lower to offset the difference.


A 20-40% “raise” would be short lived and we’d be back in the same place relative to buying power.

But I’d like to find out and be proven wrong!
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
31598 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 10:00 pm to
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Well the price of everything you will buy will go up 20 to 30 percent. I'm not sure you will like no income tax as you think.
let’s assume this is true, (20-30% sales tax)

Well, I get to decide when I pay taxes; and there would be exceptions for food staples
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10674 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 10:00 pm to
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As Louisianans, you guys should realize that you just voted yourselves a net tax increase with the shite to a higher consumption tax.


I don't live in Louisiana and I could be wrong, but I'm not at all sure that's correct based on the math.

Also (obviously) it also depends on how much you consume and what your taxable income is.

But even for the average Louisianian I'm not sure that's correct.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33408 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 10:01 pm to
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MAGA is not small government or conservative though. GTFO.

Lulz

Yet MAGA is talking the most conservative, small govt thingy in history

I'm sorry it has hurt your feelings. The ronbois narrative is taking a beating today

1) John Bolton
2) stopping all immigration
3) birthright citizenship
4) foreign aid
5) tariffs
6) J^ pardons

all the things they claimed wouldnt happen, is happening
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10674 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 10:02 pm to
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Oh look another big brained LOLbertarian moron.


You're the one whining about it, pussy.

I was just giving you your pacifier back.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10674 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 10:02 pm to
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I hate to be the rain on the parade but I think salaries would lower to offset the difference.


What makes you think that would happen?

The labor market isn't influenced by taxes as far as I can see.

It's supply and demand, same as any market.
This post was edited on 1/20/25 at 10:04 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466943 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 10:03 pm to
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Guess what? I could then determine how much I pay, based on my own strategy. Not some lifer congress critter


If enough people like you "sat it out", they'd just raise the tariffs to a point where you would ultimately pay.

Poor people don't have/make enough to pay for our current spending levels

*ETA: and if they didn't raise enough money, the deficit spending would create more taxes via inflation that would create this equilibrium
This post was edited on 1/20/25 at 10:08 pm
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