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re: How many times must boomer Republicans learn. (Black Vote)
Posted on 8/28/23 at 9:16 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 8/28/23 at 9:16 pm to AggieHank86
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damned 'sip calling an Ag "liberal."
Just when I thought you couldn't get any gayer, you say this!
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Posted on 8/28/23 at 9:46 pm to RaoulDuke504
Republicans always want to just cut shite
We have a 31 TRILLION dollar deficit you idiot. Somebody better cut something or the interest payments on our debt won’t be payable.
We have a 31 TRILLION dollar deficit you idiot. Somebody better cut something or the interest payments on our debt won’t be payable.
Posted on 8/28/23 at 10:26 pm to wackatimesthree
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Again, how so? What sort of promises do Democrats make that Republicans don't? I don't see the fact that black do not vote for Republicans as any sort of function of either's campaigns other than Democrats and the media calling Republicans racist all the time. Change my mind.
Dems send funding for programs that get their buddies rich and have no effect. Republicans cut funding to programs, but people only see the headlines of Dems funding programs.
Posted on 8/28/23 at 10:28 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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No, you have no reply because you won't acknowledge that the black community is responsible for their own problems and refuses to change anything.
I can acknowledge that, but you’re still a bozo for not realizing that you need to make people want to vote for you. Campaigning on “frick off you caused these problems” isn’t exactly a good campaign Strategy no matter how bad you want it to be.
Posted on 8/28/23 at 10:30 pm to 1609tiger
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Republicans always want to just cut shite We have a 31 TRILLION dollar deficit you idiot. Somebody better cut something or the interest payments on our debt won’t be payable.
You can cut funding to appropriate levels while also trying to make sure the funding is used properly and more efficiently so that it actually gives the people it’s desired results instead of kicking over the table saying let it stay inefficient but with just less money.
Posted on 8/28/23 at 11:59 pm to Godfather1
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Was he supporting black people when he sponsored the 1994 Crime Bill?
Yes?
Black people literally wanted the bill passed. Crime was rampant in the 1990s.
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Did he misspeak when he said he didn’t want his kids going to school in a racial jungle?
Something he said in the 1970s.
Over 40 years ago. People change.
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Did he misspeak when he said if you didn’t vote for him you weren’t black?
Yes? He clearly miscommunicated.
And clearly Black people understood all of this which is why most of them voted for him in 2020.
Posted on 8/29/23 at 12:01 am to RaoulDuke504
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I can acknowledge that, but you’re still a bozo for not realizing that you need to make people want to vote for you. Campaigning on “frick off you caused these problems” isn’t exactly a good campaign Strategy no matter how bad you want it to be.
I didn't invent that campaign slogan, you did. I'm more into telling black folks the truth rather than blowing smoke up their asses and pandering. In their communities, black people create their own problems by allowing certain elements to run wild. Politically, black folks cause their own problems by voting overwhelmingly democrat, the party that has been behind their oppression forever. If you think black people are too fragile to hear the truth, then you're part of the problem.
Posted on 8/29/23 at 12:02 am to wackatimesthree
Black people literally wanted the crime bill passed. Crime was rampant in the 1990s.
The 'integration' opinions were over 40 years ago. People change.
I'm not even going to argue that last two links because clearly Black people do not see this the same way which is why they vote for him.
The 'integration' opinions were over 40 years ago. People change.
I'm not even going to argue that last two links because clearly Black people do not see this the same way which is why they vote for him.
Posted on 8/29/23 at 3:44 am to burger bearcat
[quote]Republicans have stupidly tried to pander to the black vote for decades .../quote]
so it's ok for the democrats to pander to blacks and hispanics but stupid for republicans?
i'm not defending the republican party but the democrat party is all about pandering.
so much so that they try to imitate there speech (Hillary) and will lie or make up stories to appear to align themselves with the black folks.
and there are thousands of ways the dems have found to pander to black folks.
so it's ok for the democrats to pander to blacks and hispanics but stupid for republicans?
i'm not defending the republican party but the democrat party is all about pandering.
so much so that they try to imitate there speech (Hillary) and will lie or make up stories to appear to align themselves with the black folks.
and there are thousands of ways the dems have found to pander to black folks.
Posted on 8/29/23 at 5:40 am to CAPEX
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CAPEX
You’re an apologist.
Posted on 8/29/23 at 6:21 am to CAPEX
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Black people literally wanted the crime bill passed. Crime was rampant in the 1990s.
The 'integration' opinions were over 40 years ago. People change.
I'm not even going to argue that last two links because clearly Black people do not see this the same way which is why they vote for him.
Wow, you are serious.
As to the crime bill, even if they did want it at the time, they don't now. Now they want to defund the po-lice. That crime bill did more to put more black people in prison than any other government initiative since the War on Drugs started. Doesn't mean it shouldn't have happened, but the black narrative these days is that black people being incarcerated is solely the product of a white supremacist system. Joe Biden was a major cog in the wheel of that specific system.
And don't give me the bullshite "people can change." First of all, some of the most racist things he's ever been quoted as saying were said in the last 3-5 years.
Second, there is no bigger single example of someone being The Man in the context of a supposed white supremacist system keeping black people down than that crime bill. Not since the Civil Rights Act, anyway. There are Democrats (ostensibly) seriously discussing reparations for stuff that happened 200 years ago. But Joe Biden putting Boyz In Tha Hood in prison and throwing away the key is obsolete because it happened in the 90s?
Which is it? Do these things systematically oppress blacks or not? Are the effects still reverberating today or not? Pick one and stick with it.
Back to the general point—the statement you made is that black people can see that Biden's actions help them which is why they vote for him. But I've posted plenty of evidence that his actions DON'T help them, both in reality and in the context of their current narrative, which you then dismiss by saying, "Well, yeah, but they don't see it that way."
I agree that they don't see it that way, but they don't see it that way because their perception is the truth. They see it that way because they've been sold lies. And not by Republicans.
That's the point.
This post was edited on 8/29/23 at 6:28 am
Posted on 8/29/23 at 6:33 am to RaoulDuke504
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Republicans cut funding to programs,
Name one significant cut. I can't. They talk about cutting spending, but never do it.
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people only see the headlines
And THAT'S the difference.
Which is why I want those of you who act like this is the fault of Republicans for not "appealing to black voters" to be specific about what they should be doing or saying to do so. I don't think it's possible.
Even if they went on a major campaign to expose the negative effects of Democratic policies on the black community, it wouldn't be reported in the media in the outlets and formats that black people consume.
This post was edited on 8/29/23 at 6:35 am
Posted on 8/29/23 at 6:35 am to RaoulDuke504
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Republicans cut funding to programs, but people only see the headlines of Dems funding programs.
McCarthy has a perfect chance to cut funding right now. Let’s see what he does. My bet is he extends to November.
Posted on 8/29/23 at 6:36 am to burger bearcat
The "black vote" is no longer the prize target. Black voters realize that if voting Democrat for the last 60+ years hasn't improved their lives then voting Democrat in 2024 will not magically make their lives any better.
The American Socialist Democrat Party knows this too.
Why do you think the southern border is wide open?
No southern border + ballot harvesting = democrat controlled government until your grand kids get sick and tired of being screwed over.
The American Socialist Democrat Party knows this too.
Why do you think the southern border is wide open?
No southern border + ballot harvesting = democrat controlled government until your grand kids get sick and tired of being screwed over.
Posted on 8/29/23 at 6:45 am to burger bearcat
Problem is, they DON'T lesrn
Posted on 8/29/23 at 6:49 am to s2
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so it's ok for the democrats to pander to blacks and hispanics but stupid for republicans?
I never said it was ok either way, but unfortunately its the reality.
With universal suffrage, it is impossible to appeal to critical thinkers. You can only appeal to people's immediate, selfish desires. This is why the Republican platform is basically screwed with the firehose stream of 3rd world immigrants coming in.
The Conservative or Republican platform depends on voters willing to consider "cause and effect", how this policy might affect future generations, and how it will affect the country and their immediate community at large.
Reparations are a good example. How do you compete with that? If people believe reparations are good, simply because they feel entitled to that money, there is no chance in engaging them in a deeper conversation about... how that money was created, how this will affect the other aspects of the economy, is this moral?, etc.
Posted on 8/29/23 at 6:55 am to Ag Zwin
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Well, considering the GOP national leadership have exactly zero plans to reach out to these groups, what do you expect?
Might it have to do with decades of such outreaches not working at all?
Posted on 8/29/23 at 6:58 am to Azkiger
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Might it have to do with decades of such outreaches not working at all?
There is no outreach available, because there is not a general curiosity about why their communities are in such dire straits.
The solutions aren't going to be fixed immediately, but until there is some interest in studying what is really going on, it will simply become a contest between who can out-pander, and the Democrats have zero shame about the level of pandering they will subject themselves to, in order to aquire more power.
This post was edited on 8/29/23 at 6:59 am
Posted on 8/29/23 at 7:02 am to loogaroo
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McCarthy has a perfect chance to cut funding right now.
Only on this board is a five seat majority in one chamber of Congress a “perfect chance” to cut spending
Yay! More brinkmanship! That’ll accomplish concrete goals and not just allow the media to attack Republicans. For sure. /s
House GOP: We won’t pass appropriations bills
The Senate, WH, and the media: See everyone? Republicans aren’t even trying to govern. They’re only worried about protecting Donald Trump.
I’m sure that’ll go super well for the GOP.
This post was edited on 8/29/23 at 7:02 am
Posted on 8/29/23 at 7:33 am to Indefatigable
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not just allow the media to attack Republicans
Im not trying to defend Republicans. But what are there options? Either govern just like Democrats and hope the media leaves them alone, or be in opposition (what their voters want) and get attacked by the media.
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