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re: How Many Posters Here Have Changed Their Opinion Regarding The Real Story Behind 9/11?
Posted on 4/16/25 at 11:13 pm to GeauxBurrow312
Posted on 4/16/25 at 11:13 pm to GeauxBurrow312
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Im not a fan of the tinfoil hats on 9/11. Either the government was retarded or the government was genius manipulators, it cant go both ways. Occams Razor suggests to err on the side of the government being retards and it being a massive security let down. At that time the US was also the undisputed hegemony of the world, no one believed anyone would have the balls to hit us direct.
A lot of people died that day, many heroically. A lot more died in the years to come, my older cousins fought in hell holes because of that shite.
Thats not to say that everything was fine and dandy. The war in Iraq should have never happened. The Patriot Act was a massive overreaction. Those are all things that happen in a normal course of events after something like 9/11 though, we are a reactive society. Society reacts to fricking MS13 members getting their arse deported
This is me also.
-Were the parties that financed the effort (SA) shielded from prosecution? 100%
-Did our multiple incompetent governmental agencies know something was up but were incapable of connecting the dots through poor communciation? 100%
-Was the event some sort of planned explosive building demolition aside from the 2 jets flying into WTC 1 & 2? I don't see how, that's youtube fantasy. Anybody who knows someone who works in government at any level knows that cadre of folks couldn't pull off such a caper.
I find it amusing that the majority of all these "9/11 truthers" weren't even alive when the event itself took place. They are easily led by social media.
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 11:15 pm to AndyCBR
I hold generally, a similar view. Maybe Im naive, but I would rather remember the thousands of firefighters and police who responded and gave their lives to save the plebs like us, the people who gave blood and helped clean up the rubble, and all of the baws who volunteered to whip some arse on behalf people they didnt know.
I just dont see the point in rehashing what occurred a quarter century ago when so many people today had their lives turned upside down from it. There is nothing to gain from it other than smug "I told you so" in the off-chance (and I do believe it is off-chance) they are correct.
Say it was Dick Cheney, what does that do for any of the families of the victims? They get to see a 90 year old geezer brought to justice 25 years later? Im sure they would love that outcome instead of remembering their family as standing up for the nation.
I just dont see the point in rehashing what occurred a quarter century ago when so many people today had their lives turned upside down from it. There is nothing to gain from it other than smug "I told you so" in the off-chance (and I do believe it is off-chance) they are correct.
Say it was Dick Cheney, what does that do for any of the families of the victims? They get to see a 90 year old geezer brought to justice 25 years later? Im sure they would love that outcome instead of remembering their family as standing up for the nation.
This post was edited on 4/16/25 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 4/16/25 at 11:15 pm to GeauxBurrow312
“The smartest thing to do is pull it. They made the decision to pulled it and we watched building 7 collapse”.
Who talks like that?
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 11:18 pm to AndyCBR
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AndyCBR
Just curious. What was the correlation between 9/11 and invading Iraq? Do you think the invasion of Iraq was justified? Was W just an easily-manipulated stooge?
I'm just curious what you think about this.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 11:18 pm to AndyCBR
Posted on 4/16/25 at 11:24 pm to KCT
Easy to look back many years later and judge.
You seem to forget how easily the nation got swept up in BLM bullshite over George.
This country is very reactive. 9/11 was the most inciting political spark since Pearl Harbor, it’s not a conspiracy but a fact everyone in this country was looking for blood after it. Look up the initial approval ratings of the war in Iraq.
The Deep State exists - it is not all powerful. It’s filled with a bunch of retards, who only get to stay in power because no one ever challenges their authority. That is why they all fear Trump
You seem to forget how easily the nation got swept up in BLM bullshite over George.
This country is very reactive. 9/11 was the most inciting political spark since Pearl Harbor, it’s not a conspiracy but a fact everyone in this country was looking for blood after it. Look up the initial approval ratings of the war in Iraq.
The Deep State exists - it is not all powerful. It’s filled with a bunch of retards, who only get to stay in power because no one ever challenges their authority. That is why they all fear Trump
Posted on 4/16/25 at 11:25 pm to KCT
I no longer think Islam is a religion of peace.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 11:25 pm to KCT
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SECDEF Donald Rumsfeld announced ON 9/10 that $2.3 TRILLION DOLLARS was missing from the Defense Department (strange timing).
So right away we know you are lying about this. Donald made a comment in a vague way about possible missing money, but this happened more than a year before 9-11.
This post was edited on 4/16/25 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 4/16/25 at 11:28 pm to GumboPot
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Who talks like that?
Building 7's collapse, along with Larry Silverstein's comments, and BBC reporter Jane Stanley's reporting its collapse well before it happened started me down the rabbit hole that has led me to complete skepticism about the official story.
I don't KNOW what happened, but I place as much stock in the 9/11 Commission Report as I do the Warren Commission Report.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 11:32 pm to GeauxBurrow312
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You seem to forget how easily the nation got swept up in BLM bullshite over George.
Dude, I knew that the George Floyd situation was a false flag on day one. Don't pretend that you are a mind reader.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 11:33 pm to GumboPot
I get many of yall dont like the joos, but Mossad warned the US in August that year that the islamists were planning something, and we did nothing. The "dancing jews" conspiracy has been debunked for ages, yes they were mossad, they were there keeping tabs on arabs in our nation, including a few of the hijackers, they were not celebrating
Posted on 4/16/25 at 11:34 pm to KCT
Im not claiming to be a mind reader , Im just saying we are a very reactive society. People will get up in arms over all sorts of shite, I would bet my life the government did not set up the George Floyd incident. Of course you had the Maxine Waters of the world fan the flames afterwards, but they didnt cause it
, Im just saying we are a very reactive society. People will get up in arms over all sorts of shite, I would bet my life the government did not set up the George Floyd incident. Of course you had the Maxine Waters of the world fan the flames afterwards, but they didnt cause itPosted on 4/16/25 at 11:36 pm to KCT
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Just curious. What was the correlation between 9/11 and invading Iraq? Do you think the invasion of Iraq was justified? Was W just an easily-manipulated stooge?
I'm just curious what you think about this.
My opinion, and with the benefit of hindsight, there was not a real reason to fully invade and occupy Iraq. The subsequent decades long Middle East occupation was a bad call.
But after 9/11, something was going to happen as a response. Why we chose to turn the hunt for OBL into a decades long occupation doesn't have a reasonable explanation today. In my opinion it was like a snowball going downhill, one action led to another, and then another, and before you know it were were essentially "pot committed". And once you get the military involved, there isn't really any more option for half measures or negotiation.
What we should have been doing, is tracking down the folks in SA who financed OBL and his network. But that would never happen as SA and the US oligarchy were buddy-buddy over oil and trading military hardware.
Just my $0.02
Posted on 4/16/25 at 11:39 pm to KCT
After watching “9/11 the next Pearl Harbor” on YouTube
They debunk the popular mechanics theory of everything using their own words. It’s quite fascinating. And the lack of anyone in charge that day, it’s so strange
Show the flights and their improbably flight paths of maneuvers that the hijackers did and they couldn’t even take off in a shittey Cessna
It opened my eyes and made me feel so dirty
It’s like 4 hours but worth the time .
They debunk the popular mechanics theory of everything using their own words. It’s quite fascinating. And the lack of anyone in charge that day, it’s so strange
Show the flights and their improbably flight paths of maneuvers that the hijackers did and they couldn’t even take off in a shittey Cessna
It opened my eyes and made me feel so dirty
It’s like 4 hours but worth the time .
Posted on 4/16/25 at 11:39 pm to AndyCBR
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Why we chose to turn the hunt for OBL into a decades long occupation doesn't have a reasonable explanation today
My problem with Iraq, is that it had nothing to do with a hunt for OBL. The war in Afghanistan was the correct call - they were, definitively, supporting AQ at the time and refused our demands to hand them over and shut down their bases. Of course, that shouldnt have turned into a nation building exercise, it should have remained strictly focused on eradication of the cells.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 11:39 pm to AndyCBR
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AndyCBR
Thanks for the response.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 11:41 pm to KCT
Id toast your thread
I think probably 90% of this board probably agrees on 90%+ of shite. Never going to reach consensus on everything, but thats why we have the free speech platforms, and why X being de-censored was so vital
I think probably 90% of this board probably agrees on 90%+ of shite. Never going to reach consensus on everything, but thats why we have the free speech platforms, and why X being de-censored was so vital
Posted on 4/16/25 at 11:49 pm to GeauxBurrow312
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I get many of yall dont like the joos, but Mossad warned the US in August that year that the islamists were planning something, and we did nothing. The "dancing jews" conspiracy has been debunked for ages, yes they were mossad, they were there keeping tabs on arabs in our nation, including a few of the hijackers, they were not celebrating
I should've included this in the OP. The American government was warned but apparently ignored the message.
Oh, and I'm not one of the Joo-haters. My mother is 1/4th Jewish and she's the best person I've ever known. I think it's fine to criticize the Israeli government (Hell, I despise my own government), but there's an epidemic of anti-Jewish sentiment in the country right now. Imo, most of it is emanating from Democrat Party types.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 11:53 pm to KCT
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Thanks for the response.
You also!
Stimulating discussion for sure. And for those of us who lived through the events as adults, I doubt anyone (including myself) could say that their impression of what took place during these events is exactly the same today as it was then.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 11:59 pm to GumboPot
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who talks like that
Lucky Larry held meetings in the Windows of the World at the top of the towers everyday after he aquired them, except on 9/11. Had a dermatology appointment that day.
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